not just PDs...bolt standards?

[Clevis Hitch]

if draws are being pulled for safety reasons, then new routes with anything other than SS glueins should also be chopped. to not do that would be hypocritical of those wanting to rid the Red of unsafe practices. I only ask for consistency of wrath.

Draws were not being pulled for safety reasons. Let us be clear on that. Draws were being pulled because of Que problems. If we pull gear because of safety issues then what we are doing is saying that the gear that is left is "safe". That word "safe" needs to be taken out of the conversation. If you offer any assurance of anything for any reason you are setting yourself and the land owner up for a law suit.can't stress it enough that you need to stop using the word "safe" in any context in a public forum.

[dustonian]

I agree, safety is STRICTLY an individual matter in climbing and should never be regulated OR assured by higher-ups, special "meetings", or any other such agency or oversight group. Individuals hold sole responsibility for their own safety so CHECK YOUR SHIT PEOPLE!!

[dustonian]

I talked to Joe and the issue may have been some crud caught in the RB mechanism that kept it from camming/jamming tight. I told him to blow out the RB with some pressurized air and then use a dry lubricant like graphite. Keep it out of the wet stuff.

Yeah, a dirty/muddy hole or gummed-up camming mechanism is certain death with RBs, and the same is true of most other bolts for that matter. A nylon hole brush usually works to get out the mud when a blow tube just won't cut it. ClimbTech RBs are great products, and I have had very good experiences using them on many different types of rock including muddy/sandy Corbin sandstone

Just got a message from Joe K and he agrees that stainless steel is the way to go in the RRG. He will be equipping the route with SS once the bolt placements are dialed in and final. This is a great example and precedent for all developers to follow here and elsewhere. Thanks Joey!!

[pigsteak]

Tell Joe I have SS hangers he can have if he wants to go with 5 piece.

[climb2core]

Tell Joe I have SS hangers he can have if he wants to go with 5 piece.

suck up.

[pigsteak]

actually, it is that I am too cheap to buy the stainless 5 piece....the 4 inch are like $7 a pop. so these hangers are just sitting here.

[climb2core]

actually, it is that I am too cheap to buy the stainless 5 piece....the 4 inch are like $7 a pop. so these hangers are just sitting here.

ha ha, even better.

Cheap suck up.

[Clevis Hitch]

five dollar make you holla!

[dustonian]

actually, it is that I am too cheap to buy the stainless 5 piece....the 4 inch are like $7 a pop. so these hangers are just sitting here.

Where the f did you find stainless 5-piece for $7?? I call BS.

[pigsteak]

call me Dustin.....I got the "hook up"....lol