The Road to Sore Heel
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very diplomatic josi, and thanks for your effort all things RRGCC....and not trying to be a di**, but why can't we "just dump some gravel"....wouldn't that at least get us through winter?
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The best thing to do is not have a road below the water table. If it must be then you can utilize the same method they use for low water crossings and boat ramps.
To see a detail of the least expensive way to combat this problem follow the link below and then select the erosion control tab and then select "ArmorFlex - Application Details - Low Water Crossing Detail.pdf"
http://contech-cpi.com/Design-Toolbox/S ... tails.aspx
Basically it is a geotextile fabric over the native soil which will keep the fines in place but let the water out. Then a geogrid layer which will reinforce the subgrade. Then a stone layer to get the bearing up to something that will support a wheel load. And then a protective concrete block layer that won't get washed away. The concrete blocks are sized for the velocity and slope of the stream so they don't wash away. The concrete blocks are also all laced together with cable so they will articulate with the subtle movements over time. I can get a discount on this product if they want to go this route. It is made in Owensboro, KY.
To see a detail of the least expensive way to combat this problem follow the link below and then select the erosion control tab and then select "ArmorFlex - Application Details - Low Water Crossing Detail.pdf"
http://contech-cpi.com/Design-Toolbox/S ... tails.aspx
Basically it is a geotextile fabric over the native soil which will keep the fines in place but let the water out. Then a geogrid layer which will reinforce the subgrade. Then a stone layer to get the bearing up to something that will support a wheel load. And then a protective concrete block layer that won't get washed away. The concrete blocks are sized for the velocity and slope of the stream so they don't wash away. The concrete blocks are also all laced together with cable so they will articulate with the subtle movements over time. I can get a discount on this product if they want to go this route. It is made in Owensboro, KY.
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your fucking stupid and probably suck at more than just drivingDrRockso wrote:Think before you insult people you don't know.Agreed, the road sucks. However, you are still a shitty driver. I take an Accord through on a regular basis without so much as a scratch. Still, something has to be done before the spring rains.
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I didn't want to get into the technical engineering aspect but since it has been brought up now I will. I am a registered professional engineer in Kentucky and have attended Contech's Roadway Solutions Seminar. I have also discussed the problem and potential solutions with Site Supply who supplies Contech products in Kentucky. What we are hoping for is that the ruts/holes can be filled in with the native sand as a temporary fix. Then I will conduct a Dynamic Cone Penetrometer Test to determine a CBR (California Bearing Ration) value. Site Supply needs this number to come up with a proper engineering design. I wish it wasn't this complicated but it is. There is also a need for new culverts to help fix the creek drainage. The RRGCC will continue to try to work with Lee Co. to accomplish this work.
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yep - this stuff is way over my head! I'm glad there are people smarter than me working on this problem!
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How about don't build a road in a creek, unless you want it to be in the same condition as the creek for most of the year.
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how about forget the gravel and drive down the perfectly smooth limestone creekbed.
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where would that creekbed be found? below the "do not grade..oil line below" sign?
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ynp1, just curious, do you even climb at the red?