Access fund grants

[clif]

a lot of climbers just love to bitch and moan while doing very little to help the situation.

Take and doubletake.

[dustonian]

What does that mean?

[caribe]

What does that mean?

Drink all pay naught and if you do aught for naught do for thineself. With this philosophy you will be looking in vain for beer. -----> Drink the beer but never pay for a round. If you do anything for nothing do it for yourself. With this philosophy the beer runs dry because there are too many drinkers and no buyers. The infrastructure disappears, because there are too many users and not enough providers.

[dustonian]

Cool...but I was asking about Cliffy's cryptic dispatch.

[climb2core]

Cool...but I was asking about Cliffy's cryptic dispatch.

I know how to speak some Clif and think I can translate... I think he was saying climbers take without giving back, and doubly take without giving back.

[dustonian]

Aha. Thank you resident polyglot.

[climb2core]

Ha Ha, I will admit that I had to look up polyglot. I thought you were calling me some sort of condescending name. Nice command of the vernacular I might add.

[clif]

I think... beer.

that i can understand.

i think 90,000+/year is unjustifiable. 'entitled' or accountable w/transparency. i can't say where complaining starts and describing the specifics ends, but if people can climb and park for free, not join the access fund AND feel ostracized because they aren't choirboys, whatever big corporate money choses the 'compromising elements' will overwhelm.

if that's clear from the beginning, sorry to prolong the obvious.

oh, and this is what i meant to post..
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/14/opini ... rness.html

[dustonian]

in psychiatric parlance, that post might be considered "word salad"... an early indicator of psychosis

[clif]

there should be a question mark after the 'entitled' sentence.