You are not a climber till ya climb a 5.12

[milspecmark]

Thanks for all of your input. I am looking into all of your suggestions in the guidebook. It looks like Bruise Brothers wall has a lot of beginner routes as well, do you guys like that? Some of the climbs mentioned would work, but I am trying to find a place with some 5.8s around so we can warm up and also some of the people in our group (Not even close to being as cool as some of you) can not do 5.10s so it would be nice to have easier routes available.

[bcombs]

Get back or I'll shoot!

[jenbongo]

The Shire also has some easy routes for the vertically challenged.

[milspecmark]

The Shire looks good. Thanks.

[woodchuck008]

I remember when the standard was a bit lower, and the slogan was 'Achieve Cosmic Purity on 5.11'. Guess by 2015 it will be 5.12d or 5.13a

[will5122]

I highly recommend the gallery also. A lot of fun tens there as well a classic 5.8 although i wasn't all that blown away by it. Brief history of a climb is fantastic though. I had a big cheesy smile on the face all the way to the anchors

[vertical1]

Purgatory, Gold Coast, The Dark Side and the Motherlode would be great crags.

[OZ]

Another zombie thread?

[clif]

BRAINZ

[milspecmark]

Funny how some of you thought I was a troll or this or that. In reality I have climbed many of the routes you have suggested since I posted this last year. They were truley great climbs and I have become a better climber because of it. Thank you all, this site really helped me have some great moments at the Red.