Safety first, Canadians second

[pigsteak]

I was thinking before the permas....since they have only been there a few months

Oh, I know what you meant... funny that you would pick a route that does have perma's on it now though. Wonder what the steepest route at the Red is now without Perma's... Twinkie and Phantasia?

Probably "Black Swan"

[One-Fall]

I was thinking before the permas....since they have only been there a few months

Oh, I know what you meant... funny that you would pick a route that does have perma's on it now though. Wonder what the steepest route at the Red is now without Perma's... Twinkie and Phantasia?

Chunnel.

[truthmiracle]

Whether rapping or lowering, just be damn sure that the ground crew is on the same page.

http://www.americanalpineclub.org/p/status

Phil is a friend of mine and knew better- ALWAYS weight the new system before disconnecting from the old system. If there are any problems, they will be apparent before you are committed to the new system.

Terrible misfortune that could happen to any of us, but, it couldn't have happened to a nicer guy... Phil rocks.

We could learn a lot from Canada... instead, we've been teaching them bad habits...

[pigsteak]

he asked for a route, not a pile of sand lee....

[One-Fall]

he asked for a route, not a pile of sand lee....

Of all the hurtful things you have ever said . . .

[Andrew]

he asked for a route, not a pile of sand lee....

Of all the hurtful things you have ever said . . .

Don't worry about what he says. Like Black Swan is any less sandier and chossier.

[pigsteak]

he asked for a route, not a pile of sand lee....

Of all the hurtful things you have ever said . . .

Don't worry about what he says. Like Black Swan is any less sandier and chossier.

not my problem brah..I cant climb it anyway..all you strong dudes shuld be going up wiht brush in hand...what is this...disneyland?

[dustonian]

Actually, Chunnel is pretty immaculate compared to some of the turd-polishing going on at certain unspecified "new" crags...

[climb2core]

Ok, I'll bite. Black Swan???

[Andrew]

super ultra mega secret