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[mike_a_lafontaine]

Ultimately, there is one guidebook that is used for the Red. Whatever name goes in the guide book is likely to be used for the route, regardless of who actually has naming "rights". Perhaps ask them to whom they plan on reporting the name?

[pigsteak]

you know, I tried that with the wife last week "do you know who I am?'

her response, "the guy who loads the dishwasher...now chop chop...."

[climb2core]

your THAT guy??!!? Wow, now I am impressed!!!

[Meadows]

What, Pigsteak ... you don't like "Tunnel Buddies"?

[Toad]

Bad Meadows!

[JR]

talking to some random dude today, and he informed me that he and his bud had already named this new trad line, even before they had been on it. no anchors, no scrubbing, just eye balled it and named it. I mentioned that i had had my eye on the same line, and he said no worries, go ahead and do the FA, but the name stays.....

am I missing something?

I am pretty sure you are just baiting people into discussing your shifty practice of naming routes that you bolted but haven't sent.....

It's all about the Pigsteak.

[dustonian]

Douchebags fer sure.

BTW, it ain't really "trad" just because you stick cams in it after inspecting, cleaning, and slamming in anchor bolts on rappel. You gotta do that shit ground-up... very exciting in the Red! Did a beauty of a new line today, all of 5.8+ but plenty exciting in traditional style...

[pigsteak]

Douchebags fer sure.

BTW, it ain't really "trad" just because you stick cams in it after inspecting, cleaning, and slamming in anchor bolts on rappel. You gotta do that shit ground-up... very exciting in the Red! Did a beauty of a new line today, all of 5.8+ but plenty exciting in traditional style...

agreed..I should have said gear protected route.

[dustonian]

agreed..

Well, that sure wasn't any fun.

[rjackson]

So is there really any difference than when naming a crag you are going to develop, before all the routes are completed (bolted, cleaned, sent and in the books)?

And since Pig won't bite, I'll throw at the 'trad' style. It's cool to believe that bottom up FAs are 'better' style, but gear routes today 'are' trad routes no matter how you style it. If the ground up 'style' points matter, then you should give up sticky rubber, dynamic ropes and SLCUs... (see, wasn't that more fun... )