Black Diamond
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BD started moving its manufacturing to China back in 2006, first to a factory in Zhuhai. Since then, the move overseas has continued (Chinese cams, woohoo!). It's not really all that surprising to hear about quality control issues/lack of oversight. Companies move to china to save money, not to improve quality.
all you haters die slow.
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if the US was more manufacturing friendly, this would have never happened.
Positive vibes brah...positive vibes.
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you mean if uh-mericans didn't hate Ah-mericle?
training is for people who care, i have a job.
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yeah, wasn't there a pimp running around here just the other day looking for a job? He could be chief bitch slapper at BD. Keep those sewing machines going!!!
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Clevis Hitch
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So does that mean that Black Diamond is on its way out? I wish Petzl made cams!
If you give a man a match, he'll be warm for a minute. If you set him on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life!
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climb2core
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If you mean by more manufacturing friendly, that more American people would be willing to work 12 hour days for $135/month in some sweat factory... then I couldn't agree with you more. I have no idea about BD specifically, but your comment was also a generalization.pigsteak wrote:if the US was more manufacturing friendly, this would have never happened.
It is hard to be more manufacturing friendly when that is your competition. I think the US needs to have stricter trade laws and tariffs to combat outsourcing.
http://www.waronwant.org/overseas-work/ ... sweatshops
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climb2core
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Clevis, I forwarded the link to this thread to customer service at BD. I received a response with in 15 minutes... If you are interested Clevis I can PM you Adam's from BD contact info. He asked me not to post details of email and requested to let the Warranty Dept. follow up on this issue.
Hope the Warranty Dept. is as responsive as Adam is.
Edited to add: Adam said the Warranty Dept. guy is out climbing at Joshua Tree right now, so his response may not be as immediate. LOL
Hope the Warranty Dept. is as responsive as Adam is.
Edited to add: Adam said the Warranty Dept. guy is out climbing at Joshua Tree right now, so his response may not be as immediate. LOL
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climb to core..you should know me better than that. I could care less about the minions running around the factory floor. I am concerned how the US treats its corporations, you know the evil money that supplies jobs. my list of concerns: over promised retirement benefits, unions ran amok, healthcare costs, corporate tax rates, and trade laws too.
however, my concerns are not yours on trade laws and tariffs. if you think that applying tariffs on incoming goods is the answer, I disagree. just means china will do the same to our exports, and it is a never ending battle.
however, my concerns are not yours on trade laws and tariffs. if you think that applying tariffs on incoming goods is the answer, I disagree. just means china will do the same to our exports, and it is a never ending battle.
Positive vibes brah...positive vibes.
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climb2core
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Piggy,
It doesn't matter if you don't care about the minions running around the factory floor. What matters is what those minions think. And in the US they say "No f'ing way am I working that hard for so little". What is the solution that will stop manufacturers from moving operations over-seas? How does the US become "more manufacturing friendly"? And does your solution provide for the profitability of moving operations overseas? It just comes down to money. I really don't know what the answer is and I think people much smarter and more educated than me struggle to come up with a solution as well... or BD would still be in the US.
It doesn't matter if you don't care about the minions running around the factory floor. What matters is what those minions think. And in the US they say "No f'ing way am I working that hard for so little". What is the solution that will stop manufacturers from moving operations over-seas? How does the US become "more manufacturing friendly"? And does your solution provide for the profitability of moving operations overseas? It just comes down to money. I really don't know what the answer is and I think people much smarter and more educated than me struggle to come up with a solution as well... or BD would still be in the US.