Perma-Draws!!!!

[dustonian]

never mind

[tbwilsonky]

Does the Forest Service know about the perma draws on Mercy and Table? This is making climbers pussies.

i think the pussy part starts at bolts. 'perma' draws just allow us to be pussies sans the extra labor.

[One-Fall]

Regarding the draws on Table: I put them up because for well over 5 years, Ive never seen Table without draws on it. Not sure how that is any different than me putting longer lasting draws on it. If we think this is going to have an adverse effect, and its not just something to talk about while we are at work, please let me know and I can get the draws off.

lee

[pigsteak]

remove your draws Lee..you are done over there.

[rhunt]

Give me a day, a little bit more training and a stick clip and I can have the entire undertow wall cleaned in time for pies and pints at Miguel's. The ONLY routes that can't reasonably be cleaned a the lode are routes in the madness cave.

[dustonian]

never mind

[Meadows]

Just a reminder, FS does read this BBS.

[Joe Finney]

Whatever happend to the true redpoint? Meaning hanging the draws without falling and climbing the route clean. I am going to miss hanging my own personal draws. Perma draws on most routes is unnessary.
Ya the Undertow is a different story. Its steep and hard to clean.

[tbwilsonky]

i'm guessing this trend will occur on less than 10% of the routes. so i doubt you'll find yourself without the thrills and chills of draw-hanging.

[Shamis]

Whatever happend to the true redpoint? Meaning hanging the draws without falling and climbing the route clean. I am going to miss hanging my own personal draws. Perma draws on most routes is unnessary.
Ya the Undertow is a different story. Its steep and hard to clean.

"true redpoint" died when people forgot what pinkpoint means.