Quickdraws on 'Zen and the Art of Masturbation'

[pigsteak]

You know what would be rad? If folks started doing ascents of hard routes hanging the draws! Holy shit! That would be bad ass!

what are you smoking? or what planet do you live on? sport climbing is all about my needs being met by the community so I can get as many pitches in as I want. so I can climb with as little trouble as possible. shoot, when I am really trying to send, I even refuse to belay my partner..do not want to get my hands sore from belaying, ya know....bolts, stick clips, perma draws, blue jeans, a dog, some dope, a beer, a spray list, and a Subaru.....life is good, yo.

[rhunt]

[tbwilsonky]

nice to see the face of altruism is so rugged and sober these days...

[mike_anderson]

You know what would be rad? If folks started doing ascents of hard routes hanging the draws! Holy shit! That would be bad ass!

what are you smoking? or what planet do you live on? sport climbing is all about my needs being met by the community so I can get as many pitches in as I want. so I can climb with as little trouble as possible. shoot, when I am really trying to send, I even refuse to belay my partner..do not want to get my hands sore from belaying, ya know....bolts, stick clips, perma draws, blue jeans, a dog, some dope, a beer, a spray list, and a Subaru.....life is good, yo.

Easy there...I was agreeing with everything you said up until the Subaru part. I think "Toyota Tacoma" is more accurate.

[Toad]

You know what would be rad? If folks started doing ascents of hard routes hanging the draws! Holy shit! That would be bad ass!

Would that mean a difference between a Redpoint and a Pinkpoint?

[tbwilsonky]

its only a notable difference if we get extra points.

[dssclimb]

It's amazing how long my personal draws last now that I never use them. I miss the days when only half the Undertow Wall was fixed. I was guaranteed to have half the routes with no one on them.

[RRO]

need to find a new name..perma draw is not permanent...and this is onr more example why it is a terrible precedent.

You know what would be rad? If folks started doing ascents of hard routes hanging the draws! Holy shit! That would be bad ass!

couldnt agree more....

[pigsteak]

need to find a new name..perma draw is not permanent...and this is onr more example why it is a terrible precedent.

You know what would be rad? If folks started doing ascents of hard routes hanging the draws! Holy shit! That would be bad ass!

couldnt agree more....

but that only makes you old and crusty....lol

[rhunt]

It's amazing how long my personal draws last now that I never use them. I miss the days when only half the Undertow Wall was fixed. I was guaranteed to have half the routes with no one on them.

So what routes at the lode are not fixed? In case my old crusty ass ever makes it back there, I want to know if I need to bring my draws?

Oh and do 'they' provide ropes now too? Should I bring my gri gri or is there one at base of each route? How often do they change the routes? I heard all the routes with orange draws are the hardest, is that true? Can you we bring our Ipods to play into the sound system? Is there wifi? What time does it close? Is there a redbull machine - how much?