Just got rid of something from my ass.
I feel much lighter now.
Pull the rope?
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Al I wanna know is why he keeps calling me a bastard? Did I do something to you? Why do you want to be so confrontational? Fucker!
You inferred that we were bastards. If I say T/R'ing is a bastardized form of climbing= anyone who T/R's is a bastard by association. You should be more careful of the words that you use in a sentence. If you use an adjective that has a negative connotation. That negativity is impressed upon any person or thing in that sentence. It's not so much a direct slur as an infered one.
Let's say you walked into Lowel's and said Mechanicing is a bastardized proffession. What do you think would happen next?
It's you that doesn't have command of the English language,asshole fucker!
You inferred that we were bastards. If I say T/R'ing is a bastardized form of climbing= anyone who T/R's is a bastard by association. You should be more careful of the words that you use in a sentence. If you use an adjective that has a negative connotation. That negativity is impressed upon any person or thing in that sentence. It's not so much a direct slur as an infered one.
Let's say you walked into Lowel's and said Mechanicing is a bastardized proffession. What do you think would happen next?
It's you that doesn't have command of the English language,asshole fucker!
That's too funny JH..you wondering why he wants to be confrontational. May I remind you of our digression last week, and the way you hijacked me when I questioned the restitution paid by you? don't be so defensive brah...
and may I suggest the following, before you assert one of you has a higher "command" of the English language:
inferred, not infered
profession, not proffession
and "mechanicing"?..not sure I want to touch that one..Sprag, what is the verb for your profession?
TR'ing is inferior..end of discussion. Why else do we start beginnners on TR, and save leading for the more "experienced" climbers??
If you argue otherwise, you are:
1-Scared shitless when leading
2-Too lazy to hang the draws or place the gear
3-Inexperienced
4-Afraid to take a leader fall
(All this assumes all other issues are equal (pro, safety, etc.))
and may I suggest the following, before you assert one of you has a higher "command" of the English language:
inferred, not infered
profession, not proffession
and "mechanicing"?..not sure I want to touch that one..Sprag, what is the verb for your profession?
TR'ing is inferior..end of discussion. Why else do we start beginnners on TR, and save leading for the more "experienced" climbers??
If you argue otherwise, you are:1-Scared shitless when leading
2-Too lazy to hang the draws or place the gear
3-Inexperienced
4-Afraid to take a leader fall
(All this assumes all other issues are equal (pro, safety, etc.))
Positive vibes brah...positive vibes.
Knowledge of the english language is tricky; first you gotta know what the word means, and then you have to realize that the word can have a totally different meaning in the form of an expression. Bastardized form of speaking (or climbing) has never made anyone a bastard. (that was a period) 
! Enough with all that detestation ALREADY !
Smile & be thankful for what you have.
Smile & be thankful for what you have.
pigsteak:
I will agree on most subjects discussed in your last post, however, I will have to disagree on one small detail (which is no big deal and not enough to create a new argument).
In my opinion, there could be many other reasons why climbers would TR. In my case, I should not be taking any falls on an already messed-up ankle that is in the process of healing. A fall and any fall would put me back on a chair for another 8 weeks. Aside from that, I can totally see myself climbing with some hard-core climber and seconding all pitches, even after I recover from my injury. There might be many reasons for this, including many limiting factors such as time spent exposed in the mountains. There could in fact be the fact that 2 climbers agree on climbing 20 routes at the red in a day, and therefore allowing the faster leader to lead all the routes chosen for this task / training. I do not know, but I am sure that there could be a number of other issues that could come into play as to why one would want to top rope... But I don't think it would make them weak by any means. Yes, it could make them stronger to lead (in some cases) but as very well mentioned earlier in the thread, the future of this sport may just lie on the mere fact that we might all be top-ropping to achieve the hardest routes (sooner or later) – This is something that could happen to top-notch climbers around the world (humm, yeah, don’t worry, I’ll exclude myself right now for the simple fact that most 5.10’s are out of my reach)
I will agree on most subjects discussed in your last post, however, I will have to disagree on one small detail (which is no big deal and not enough to create a new argument).
In my opinion, there could be many other reasons why climbers would TR. In my case, I should not be taking any falls on an already messed-up ankle that is in the process of healing. A fall and any fall would put me back on a chair for another 8 weeks. Aside from that, I can totally see myself climbing with some hard-core climber and seconding all pitches, even after I recover from my injury. There might be many reasons for this, including many limiting factors such as time spent exposed in the mountains. There could in fact be the fact that 2 climbers agree on climbing 20 routes at the red in a day, and therefore allowing the faster leader to lead all the routes chosen for this task / training. I do not know, but I am sure that there could be a number of other issues that could come into play as to why one would want to top rope... But I don't think it would make them weak by any means. Yes, it could make them stronger to lead (in some cases) but as very well mentioned earlier in the thread, the future of this sport may just lie on the mere fact that we might all be top-ropping to achieve the hardest routes (sooner or later) – This is something that could happen to top-notch climbers around the world (humm, yeah, don’t worry, I’ll exclude myself right now for the simple fact that most 5.10’s are out of my reach)
! Enough with all that detestation ALREADY !
Smile & be thankful for what you have.
Smile & be thankful for what you have.
fair enough vic.....my girlfriend has a messed up ankle right now, and is in the same position.
i just like to start crap on here..ask sprag...lol
"for the majority of climbers, in the majority of situations, leading is more challenging and difficult than TR'ing." how's that?
btw, were you at torrent on sunday, belaying julie? those were my draws you guys were changing out.
i just like to start crap on here..ask sprag...lol
"for the majority of climbers, in the majority of situations, leading is more challenging and difficult than TR'ing." how's that?
btw, were you at torrent on sunday, belaying julie? those were my draws you guys were changing out.
Positive vibes brah...positive vibes.
