Placing a cam? Slotting a nut? Slinging a tree?
lena_chita
Posts: 347 Joined: Sat Oct 11, 2008 9:48 pm
Post
by lena_chita » Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:19 pm
njp158 wrote: I guess what throws me off is that the tie in points are redundant, you go through the top and bottom of your harness and even the belay if you please. I guess the Belay loop wouldn't be submitted to as much shock loading, but still you are catching lead falls on it potentially . I guess in my mind if we have redundant tie in points we should also have redundant belay/rappel loops.
potentially catching lead falls... Your belay loop has a lot of unrealized potential, I guess.
heath
Posts: 106 Joined: Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:24 am
Post
by heath » Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:39 pm
From their website: "Two belay/rappel loops make setting up for rappels and multi-pitch belays easier"
They don't give you two because you're supposed to use both when belaying. They aren't trying to make it redundant![/quote]
Whether or not they are trying to make it redundant, it is.
TradMike
Posts: 1173 Joined: Thu Nov 07, 2002 2:57 am
Post
by TradMike » Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:57 pm
Most belay loops that I have seen are actually two seperate slings sewn together so they are redundant.
pkananen
Posts: 368 Joined: Wed Jul 18, 2007 2:20 am
Post
by pkananen » Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:13 pm
heath wrote: From their website: "Two belay/rappel loops make setting up for rappels and multi-pitch belays easier"
They don't give you two because you're supposed to use both when belaying. They aren't trying to make it redundant!
Whether or not they are trying to make it redundant, it is.[/quote]
No. You only belay off of one of them. You don't clip through both.
heath
Posts: 106 Joined: Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:24 am
Post
by heath » Fri Jun 04, 2010 5:59 pm
You don't clip through both, or what? Is the metolius monster going to get you?
"You're a long way from home now, Buddy" - Ted kindly pointing out a ran out mess.
pkananen
Posts: 368 Joined: Wed Jul 18, 2007 2:20 am
Post
by pkananen » Fri Jun 04, 2010 6:02 pm
heath wrote: You don't clip through both, or what? Is the metolius monster going to get you?
Obviously you
can . They just didn't design it so you'd clip both when belaying.
bcombs
Posts: 2048 Joined: Sun Nov 02, 2003 4:20 pm
Post
by bcombs » Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:10 pm
But, Peter... there are two of them! It's right there in the picture. Two of them... it is redundant. Like this post.
ReachHigh
Posts: 1784 Joined: Fri Jan 28, 2005 4:17 pm
Post
by ReachHigh » Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:24 pm
no this post is redundant.
"there's a line between self improvement and self involvement"
"Dogs are nature's pooper scoopers ."
ReachHigh
Posts: 1784 Joined: Fri Jan 28, 2005 4:17 pm
Post
by ReachHigh » Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:24 pm
no this post is redundant.
"there's a line between self improvement and self involvement"
"Dogs are nature's pooper scoopers ."