Help from the boulderers out there . . .

[One-Fall]

Can you step out on a limb and give what you think certain problems within routes would be rated? Just to get started:

Ro, Strevels, Tic Tac Toe, TOC, TOC direct, Wild Yet Tasty, Dinosaur, Samurai, Nicoderm, First 3 bolts of the Legend, Hoofmaker, Harvest, Take That Katie Brown, Aquaduct Pockets . . . pretty much any route with a discernable crux.

thanks for the help!

[camhead]

All of the cruxes are v4. But some of the v4's are harder than others.

[SCIN]

My memory is bad but here's my guess:

Ro - V3
Strevels - V4-V5
Tic Tac Toe - V4-V5
TOC Direct - V5-V6 (bottom)
Samurai - V4
Nicoderm - V15
Legend - V6-V7
Hoofmaker - V4-V5
Harvest - V3? (no defined crux really)
Golden Touch - V6-V7 (height dependent)
Falls City - V7-V8

[pigsteak]

notice how SCIN doesn't answer the routes you asked for, but throws in those he walks in sneakers...interesting.

[SCIN]

I answered every route he wanted and added in a couple extra I remember. You just don't understand the hip abbreviations that Lee used.

[pigsteak]

Wild Yet Tasty? What was the hip abrev....River City Falls?

Dinosaur?..geesh, you old farts have Alzheimers....

[Meadows]

Man, I boulder better than I think I do. Thanks, Ray! Dave probably thinks they're all V1, although he thinks the start of Iniquity is V10.

[crayon]

Iniquity start is maybe hard (and painful) V4 or V5--feels super shitty in the summer, though. A lip broke off of the slopey pocket thing out left that the first move is to; maybe it was easier before?

Wild, Yet Tasty seemed like a hard V3.

Aquaduct--maybe hard V2?

[JR]

All of the cruxes are v4. But some of the v4's are harder than others.

I concur*. I have no idea why V4 is the magic number for the Red. The few routes that have moves harder than v4, I would call height dependent v4.

*All routes in the 5.12 range.

[schwagpad]

The first couple moves on A Clean Well-lighted Face are hard. V10?
Revival crux - v5-v6
Second Nature - V7-V8