The ongoing weekend idiot report
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it's truly horrifying how many people climb a couple of days in the gym and think they are ready to start leading outside with zero instruction. time for a "climbing certification" program of some kind--like the Appalachian Mtn Club used to do in the 30s and 40 before you were allowed to lead anything! the threat of physical injury or worse is clearly not enough of a deterrent.
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Not enough detail to judge this incident specifically, but there are plenty of places to climb where it is acceptable and even necessary to do a bit of exploring. A person who learns in a predominantly multi-pitch trad area with little published info available will have a very different approach that what you may have.clif wrote:...this kind of approach to climbing...
In fact, I think going bolt-to-bolt and stopping right at the anchors, no looking to the right or left, is exactly what is taught in a gym. Follow the formula and do not vary.
Again, not necessarily meant to apply to this exact situation.
No chalkbag since 1995.
Top outs usually suck in the red, especially on something not intended to be summited.
I've seen a certain unnamed climber try to top out blade runner because someone was climbing Danita Dolores, which shares the same anchor. Hold broke, fell, swung into the other climber and knocked him off the route. Not cool.
I've seen a certain unnamed climber try to top out blade runner because someone was climbing Danita Dolores, which shares the same anchor. Hold broke, fell, swung into the other climber and knocked him off the route. Not cool.
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this is what i was trying to understand. i'm not sure why you didn't understand. if this individual was mentored in an exploratory 'objective hazard' filled environment wouldn't they have been cognizant of climbing over their gear on friable rock ?kato wrote:Not enough detail to judge this incident specifically, but there are plenty of places to climb where it is acceptable and even necessary to do a bit of exploring. A person who learns in a predominantly multi-pitch trad area with little published info available will have a very different approach that what you may have.clif wrote:...this kind of approach to climbing...
In fact, I think going bolt-to-bolt and stopping right at the anchors, no looking to the right or left, is exactly what is taught in a gym. Follow the formula and do not vary.
Again, not necessarily meant to apply to this exact situation.
did i miss your point?