They're called Rap Rings Not Lowering Rings

[jordancolburn]

I'll be the toproping bitch! no shame. Well, when you can't get up even on toprope, there is some shame, but it slowly subsides......

[cliftongifford]

Sorry cliftongifford, but after looking at your ticklist it is no surprise ....

Agreed, I guess I don't climb hard/overhung stuff enough to have to worry about it. Although, I'm assuming that'd be the case for the majority of people on this forum... Usually if the route is hard/impossible to rap from there's easily replaced biners on the route and not rings welded shut that are a pain to replace. If I see a route that has permanant rings I always rap. But thanks anyways for reminding me how weak I am....

[Andrew]

Actually you climb strong, its just that the routes you have done aren't that steep. You are probably right that routes like that should be rapped when cleaning, but sorry I will lower, but I also replaced worn out gear.

For everyone who says to toprope to get the gear, I don't really climb with anyone who topropes. Seriously, can you even really call it climbing.

[cliftongifford]

Seriously, can you even really call it climbing.

only sometimes... when you're trading pitches and seconding/cleaning it can sometimes get rough... but usually there isn't the same fall potential. And very rare for The Red.

I always carry bail biners or quick links with me that I'm willing to sacrifice for the cause, and webbing to replace sketchy shit when I'm at a traditional crag. The RRG obviously has a lot of climbers doing the same, nearly every route I've been on has had some sort of bombproof setup... Props the community for keeping it safe.

[bcombs]

....I don't really climb with anyone who topropes...

Except for me, when I'm really out of shape, like right now.

[dustonian]

all this said, you do occasionally see a huge group from some gym or college rec club or whatever toprope-gangbanging some route directly through the anchors, lowering overweight chuffers over and over again with their sandy rope through the rings.... now that is truly unconscionable.

[Clevis Hitch]

the biggest problem in climbing is climbers! Those fuckers...

[KD]

esp the you know who's from you know where that we cant mention because he gets mad and they says things and then we cant talk about them anymore.

[gregkerzhner]

let it be noted, this is the only proper way to clean a route. Next time you quit half way up your madness cave flail fest, if you aren't doing this, I will personally kick you in the baby maker. Twice if you arent wearing a helmet and thrice if your also not using an 8

[JR]

Love that picture Greg. Are you wearing kneepads????Aren't kneepads a little Ghey?