gate at solar collector/darkside entrance

[anticlmber]

......I just get pissed off when people don't get involved in the decision making process, and then complain after the fact

Nobody ran the decision or the process by me because I would've told you it was a dick move.l

you should have been at the meeting you said you were going to come to when the gate was discussed.

paranoia, name calling, and bitching about YOUR feelings vs. the community is selfeish and we have PLENTY of those types here not helping in any way other than bringing everyone down.

haven't seen you a t a trail day or heard of you at one, EVER. i know for a fact you have done more to jeapordize climbing then helped it. you set a bad example, leave a bad taste, and overall just bitch to bitch. you get answers but change the words in your head so that you seem like the victim and hope others see it that way. as charlie(and many others have said) YOU are the only one he feels so slighted.

if the coalition was sooo elite how come they welcome ANYONE to the meetings?

charlie,bill,many others have answered your questions in simple balck and white answers. you say your reading and comprehension is tops but i say not.

EVERYONE needs to get over themselves and work for the community, like the BOD and other selfless volunteers do. BIG THANKS to THOSE folks.

so to you, whoever you are reading this; put up or shut the fuck up!

[anticlmber]

also, if torrent is the cool kids club then anybody that gets up and registers online to climb there must be a cool kid.

and by cool kids i mean people that don't fuck it up for others.

they don't give me a card, they don't let me in, and i don't take it personally. its BOB's property, he has that right.

by your rational, all the locals who won't let us climb on their land are selfish, elitist, whatever name you choose.

[DriskellHR]

$50 buck....All you gotta do is step up to the plate....Do I hear anybody else willing to kick this to see it happening...? I won't be easy like your mommy was. I'll be hard, real hard. Its gonna hurt too. Not like that emo shit you pulled in high school. I mean real pain.

I figured you would resort to threats. Makes you sound like a big man.....

[charlie]

Clevis has actually helped at a few trail days, and I give credit where credit is due.

$50 buck....All you gotta do is step up to the plate....Do I hear anybody else willing to kick this to see it happening...? I won't be easy like your mommy was. I'll be hard, real hard. Its gonna hurt too. Not like that emo shit you pulled in high school. I mean real pain.

Not sure if this kind of thing helps your chances of getting in on the BOD however.

[bcombs]

I know for a fact that Clevis has attended some trail days. In fact, this very trail in question (Solar) was where I first "met" him.

[Andrew]

you should tell that story brad.

[powen01]

If and when I hit that trail, I will see the open gate as a way to thank all the people that work so hard to keep it open; not as a a threat to access. Guess it all depends on your perspective and attitude...

[Jeff]

I think you hit the nail on the head powen01.

[krampus]

hmm, will you give $50 for every person who calls you a dimwhitted asswhipe to your face?

[dustonian]

Now THAT'S fundraising!!