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Post by ynot »

Those numbers are so lopsided. We obviuosly aren't killing enough idiot journalists.
They're still all over the airwaves spouting Bs all day long.
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Post by Clevis Hitch »

I'm with ynot on this one :mrgreen:


Since when is the measure of success or failure the attrition rate.
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Post by L K Day »

toad857 wrote:
L K Day wrote:Clifton - Bullshit numbers.
bullshit comment
Cram it.
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Post by cliftongifford »

L K Day wrote:
toad857 wrote:
L K Day wrote:Clifton - Bullshit numbers.
bullshit comment
Cram it.
go listen to your Rush and Hannity... that's obviously all you know.
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Post by Xtant »

Glenn Beck, all the way!

Not really...

Stephen Colbert 2012
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Post by L K Day »

cliftongifford wrote:
L K Day wrote:
toad857 wrote:
bullshit comment
Cram it.
go listen to your Rush and Hannity... that's obviously all you know.
So, dumbfuck, I guess Rush and Hannity wrote the following Wikipedia entry.

"2009 was again the most lethal year for Afghan civilians in the American-led war since the fall of the Taliban government in late 2001. According to the UN Assistance Mission in Afghanistan (UNAMA), 2,412 civilians were killed by the war in 2009, a jump of 14% over the number that lost their lives in 2008. An additional 3,566 Afghan civilians were wounded as a result of the war in 2009.[24][23]

Of these, UNAMA attributed two-thirds, or 1,630, of the deaths to the action of anti-government forces, around a quarter, 596, of the deaths to action by American-led military forces, and was not able to clearly attribute another 186 civilian deaths to any one side. Airstrikes continued to be the main cause of civilian deaths resulting from US-led military action, with 359 Afghan civilians killed by US/NATO airstrikes in 2009.[24]"

So, in the most deadly year of the war so far, US/Nato airstrikes killed 359 civilians in Afghanistan. Regrettable, certainly, but a far cry from "bombing millions of civilians". Wherever you get your numbers from, you should check your sources a little better before you slander those who call them into question.
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Post by cliftongifford »

Listen, you old crusty piece of shit. You're focusing on 1 year out of 8, and 1 country out of 2 that has 5% as many casualties as the other. You're also not including injuries and unreported deaths, which will increase your numbers by a multiple of 5 to 10. Also, your same source, wiki, shows anywhere from a 100,000 to 1,033,000 DEATHS as a result of the war in Iraq alone... once again not including injuries or Afghanistan. Regardless, 359 innocent people dead in one country, in one year, by one group of people, over something we shouldn't be involved in, is 359 too many.
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Post by Izzy »

You do realize that the statement "anywhere between 100,000 and 1,033,000" doesn't exactly lend credibility to your argument. Although I must applaud your emotional knee-jerk reaction, well played.
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Post by pigsteak »

you'll have to forgive clifton..he's off his meds...

besides, last I heard obesity and smoking in America kill millions a year..maybe he could pick up the campaign to put junk food companies out of business for killing the innocent. just a thought brother, as it is closer to home, and right under yer nose. now get to work.
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Post by Clevis Hitch »

cliftongifford wrote: over something we shouldn't be involved in...
Over something we shouldn't be involved in? Last I checked those bitches brought that shit here with 9/11. You seem to discount that completly. We didn't go over there looking for shit! They brought it to us! You gotta get your head screwed on straight! We didn't even provoke them unless you call being the most benevolent country the world has ever seen provoking.

Look I know you're a pussy..we can all smell it... all of us...just understand that there are those of us who have actually done something for our country because we believe that America is a great place. I know you've sat in classrooms and listened to the blather and you've hung out in the student lounge listening to the ladies talk about how horrible America is. You may have agreed with them and may have even bedded a few because those gurls like their men like you, weak and willing to do anything to satisfy your base desires. Which in this case is to sell out your manhood and walk three steps behind one of these bitches carrying her purse.
So for future reference please, before you bring your slanted views and your fucked up proof to the arena of ideas, do us all a favor and think about it first. Nobody is buying it.
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