Green Climbing

[cliftongifford]

quit using all my green for bullshit reasons

My hemp strain used to make things isn't very good to smoke...... I would never use the 'good'.

[ahab]

to sum up w/o original thinking on my part, here are some real gems from other environmental threads on this board:

first of all, there is no really real human/nature divide. there is no ecosystem that does not include human influence. there is no pristine nature untouched by the 'ravages of man'. in other words, the split between 'us' and 'it' is all in your heads. you can thank the enlightenment for that doozy.

but this is a climbing thread so i won't bore you with a bunch of 'words' from 'books'.

in my mind, the relative impact of climbing is tiny when compared to:
1) the production and distribution of fossil fuels that make getting to the crag possible. think Exxon Valdeze and mountain top removal.
2) the creation of roads that make getting to the crag possible. think about toxic runoff and animal roaming patterns cut in half by escalades.
3) the production of food that make climbing possible. think pesticides and the rapid drainage of aquifers.
4) the production of stealth rubber. because everyone knows it has to be made from baby seals.

i'm not saying we should run naked through the forest with a bolt gun and a flame thrower. hardly. i'm just saying that climbing really is a tiny tiny blip in the 'destroying nature' game.

and so it seems that a simple code of ethics should suffice: please try not to break s#*t.

for more of this 'hogwash' goto: http://bluegrassbouldering.wordpress.co ... my-ethics/

-t

man, that was great wasn't it? i mean, "so i won't bore you with a bunch of 'words' from 'books'." that is some classic shit!

another keeper:

I've said it before, I'll say it again- If you really want to save the Earth just kill yourself. Pretty simple actually. Not condoning reckless consumption and waste by any means, but sometimes I feel like I'm choking on a cloud of smug from all these folks who are convinced they're helping out. And word to the above, climbers should be sponsored by Shell and Exxon, not Patagonia.

[anticlmber]

another reason to bike around town,

legs like this




thats for you charlie, don, rro, and fuck; the rest of you

[caribe]

another reason to bike around town . . . legs like this
thats for you charlie, don, rro, and fuck; the rest of you

Call 911 . . . for me, my ticker stalled! . . . do you have her mom's number?

[toad857]

If everyone on the planet lived like you, how many more planets would we need? Find out:

http://www.myfootprint.org/en/visitor_information/

No matter how "green" you think you are, you're still a heterotroph. You're a consumer, and always will be. But, we humans could probably do without burning through the whole planet's resources in one lifetime, yeah?

[clif]

climbing specific impacts are few in context of anyone's day to day activities.

two things i didn't see mentioned-eating Clif Bars (no connection w/yours truly) and spending the extra on supporting 'off brand' products in general; and buying Patagonia, as they use recycled plastic in some of their clothing, closing the loop.

and blah, but consider how climbing is green as it is in that providing an example of a 'healty' (active) lifestyle outdoors and is cheaper than war.

[robert birchell]

in 33 years of climbing i have seen:
1. flowers dug out of cracks
2. pin scars in those cracks
3. trees cut down in front of those cracks
4. trails cut to the cliffs
5. chalk all over the rock
6. slings hanging at rap points
7. bolts
8. trash at the base of climbs
9. human waste
10. dog crap
11. ghetto blasters at full volume
12. chipping
13. drilled routes
14. lawn chairs stashed at the cliff
Shit happens

[Shamis]

"Clearcut" Pigsteak has a conscience?

[Jay]

Sorry, Anti, the pic was shopped- Here's the original:

[anticlmber]

either way