Reward- Tired of the thiefs among us

[Jeff]

Ever see one that's been out in the weather for awhile?
They snap like a pretzle.

[Josephine]

i talked to Scott Park @ Trango. I suggested red biners that say "fixed gear." or something like that. The minimum for a custom order is 500 pieces. I'm having him put together a sample and some prices. If several developers go together it *might* be reasonable to order a custom batch. I'll let you know what i find out.

[lena_chita]

I always figure that the guy who takes my cleaner booty will take the hard swing into the foliage, and possibly get reamed by the tree. For that to happen to a bitch is worth about treefity

Well, not necessarily. If the person is TR'ing the route, they can take that cleaning 'biner and not worry about the swing.

[Cocoapuffs1000]

Ever see one that's been out in the weather for awhile?
They snap like a pretzle.

Mcmaster has weather-resistant ties for outdoor applications.
http://www.mcmaster.com/#harsh-environm ... es/=526pmo


There are other, more difficult to remove options if you're so inclined.

[robert birchell]

I wire the link or biner direct to the chain
with light copper wire. Stops 90% of theft.
Easy to change biner with small needle nose
pliers when it wears.

[clif]

just for a different perspective----not a developer or local.

the simple minded 'tradition' is that if it isn't 'FIXED' it's booty (unconfirmed). this has/is changing, and quite likely the Red is pacing the race.

Maybe Not.

but as has been suggested, the 'ignorant' may widely outnumber the informed and trendy.

EDIT-

yeah, that misses alot. but within the last 15 years even routes equipped with hanging draws were limited to 5.13+ routes for extended periods or if less then only for short periods and with, maybe, the thought that the gear may not be there when one got back to it.

There are many people with longer and broader experience.

and with no obligation that the 'fixer' had responsibility to replace outworn gear.

i'm out of my league, but just a few things that seem to me to be in play.

[Barnacle Ben]

The suggestion by
Robert Birchell was really
Good and a haiku.

[Steve]

looking at anohter thread, maybe using those plastic tie threads is the way to go...they'd need something sharp to cut them, and if those get taken, we know we have a thief.

Came across lots of biners & quick links zip tied to the ring or the hanger in Squamish. Thought that was an interesting approach as someone would have to hual up a knife or side snips to steal the hardware.

Using biners allows for quick anchor cleaning and quick replacement when they get worn from all the idots TRing through the anchor.

[ynot]

It's obviously a universal problem, then. The outdoor rated zip tie sounds like the easiest solution, but like everything else not foolproof. I know I have sacrificed my share of biners and slings just to insure a safe rappel for my party. It's always gone the next time I do the same route.

[Eric Cox]

I wire the link or biner direct to the chain
with light copper wire. Stops 90% of theft.
Easy to change biner with small needle nose
pliers when it wears.

If anyone is needing copper wire to fix this problem, see me. I have many small peices left over from electrical jobs.