Hey Fucksticks!

Post by **caribe** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:16 pm

pigsteak wrote:if education is supposedly the solution, then why would China not give education to the second child? what am I missing in the walking quandry?

Oh the second child gets educated, but the parents have to pay.

Post by **caribe** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:25 pm

michaelarmand wrote:
caribe wrote:
Get all the facts:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-child_policy
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/170840.php
It has been enforced at the providence level, so sure in some areas things are lax, but in others not so much. And violating the policy can carry large fines....and if you are a poor chinese worker and don't have any money....
This is a major human rights issue, I am shocked we are even debating it.

I read it. You are going to have to point me to the bad bits, because I don't see anything glaringly wrong. There is no forced abortion. People are deciding to abort because they can not afford to raise the child. Even so abortion rates are lower than the USA. "The policy is controversial both within and outside China because of the manner in which the policy has been implemented, and because of concerns about negative economic and social consequences. The policy has been implicated in an increase in forced abortions and female infanticide, and has been suggested as a possible cause behind China's gender imbalance. Nonetheless, a 2008 survey undertaken by the Pew Research Center showed that over 76% of the Chinese population supports the policy." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-child_policy

Post by **Crankmas** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:48 pm

wow, the chinese population goes on record supporting a government mandate- shocking- and you know, it makes me wonder, whats going on,

Post by **Crankmas** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 3:26 pm

and for the parents out there, are you using the president's safe schools czar's technique for fisting or are you teaching your children outside the govt recommendations?

Post by **michaelarmand** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:40 pm

Crankmas wrote:and for the parents out there, are you using the president's safe schools czar's technique for fisting or are you teaching your children outside the govt recommendations?

http://biggovernment.com/2009/12/08/fis ... onference/

Post by **charlie** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:10 pm

http://mediamatters.org/research/200912110014

Post by **JeffCastro** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:13 pm

Your link to "fistgate" just proves my point. Why is there a controversy over teaching kids about safe sex? If we had our priorities straight we would be giving out bags of condoms to every public school student.

Post by **bcombs** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:19 pm

JeffCastro wrote:Your link to "fistgate" just proves my point. Why is there a controversy over teaching kids about safe sex? If we had our priorities straight we would be giving out bags of condoms to every public school student.

I'm all for teaching safe sex, but cmon, really?

Post by **Crankmas** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:28 pm

fistgate is like taking flying lessons and being taught how to crash- I agree that American society has a rather dubious record of teaching human sexuality but health and sociological considerations aside the dude is openly advocating techniques for peeing on another etc..., besides kids can learn that stuff from rappers, bring back drivers' ed if you want to save kids lives

Post by **trog** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:20 pm

it all makes me very sad,
i see too many confused, misled, hurting people

(and not just on this thread)