Unpublished sport climbs

Post by **schwagpad** » Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:02 pm

How about the crag near M-load but on the other side of the road, with a handful of long pumpy 5.12s? (I forget the name)

How about Briar Patch? Grott?
Serafina?

The two biggest unpublished crags I know of have access issues. doh.

Post by **Toy** » Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:23 pm

What are you doing DH? I never took you for one to stir the shit pot.

Post by **sendit** » Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:30 pm

insert fight club quote here

Post by **michaelarmand** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 2:59 am

SCIN wrote:I know of a large cliff with many routes that I won't publish because the developer doesn't want it to be published.

Why someone would put forth the effort and expense to develop a cliff and not want anyone to go there? I guess if there are access issues, but otherwise this makes no sense....

Post by **toad857** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 3:47 am

michaelarmand wrote:Why someone would put forth the effort and expense to develop a cliff and not want anyoneto go there?

it's not that they don't want anyone to go there. it's just that they don't want YOU to go there.

Post by **bcombs** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 4:45 am

Post by **SCIN** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:09 pm

michaelarmand wrote:
SCIN wrote:I know of a large cliff with many routes that I won't publish because the developer doesn't want it to be published.
Why someone would put forth the effort and expense to develop a cliff and not want anyone to go there? I guess if there are access issues, but otherwise this makes no sense....

I'm pretty sure there are slight access issues with the cliff I know of. Not sure why someone would want to keep a crag secret. Maybe so they always have a place to go that's not going to be crowded? Kind of like a personal gym for training.

Post by **Barnacle Ben** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:25 pm

sendit wrote:insert fight club quote here

"I haven't been fucked like that since middle school."

Post by **ahab** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 2:08 pm

michaelarmand wrote:
SCIN wrote:I know of a large cliff with many routes that I won't publish because the developer doesn't want it to be published.
Why someone would put forth the effort and expense to develop a cliff and not want anyone to go there? I guess if there are access issues, but otherwise this makes no sense....

"I am Jack's unfounded sense of entitlement"

Post by **Wes** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 2:14 pm

ahab wrote:
michaelarmand wrote:
SCIN wrote:I know of a large cliff with many routes that I won't publish because the developer doesn't want it to be published.
Why someone would put forth the effort and expense to develop a cliff and not want anyone to go there? I guess if there are access issues, but otherwise this makes no sense....
"I am Jack's unfounded sense of entitlement"

Not really. If you go out, find some private cliff line, work out access for you and a limited number of people, build some trails and bolt some lines, why should you have to risk your access to invite the masses? The ave. climbers are the ones with the sense of entitlement, not the developers.

That said, the oil crack, arena, solar, darkside, and even the lode where "secret" crags at one time. So, there may be some hope for some of the current mega, ultra secret locals only crags to be opened. I can't think of any unpublished crags right now that don't have some form of access issue or another...