Sport lines in wilderness areas

[pigsteak]

I'll take jeff's share of the fame and glory. If none is available, I'm out. If I get a full page in rock and ice for my generous and selfless volunteerism, I'm in.

In lieu of all that, let's see who steps up from the non traditional crew to really pull this off. I sure hope climbers prove me wrong this time, and the turnout (and cash)is more than can be used.

[krampus]

rather than just wait until enough money is collected, here are the routs and numbers of bolts including the anchors. If you are a fan of one of these commit to buying new hardware for it, this way you will know where your money went. first come first served though. We don't know the price per bolt at this time, however we can bet that the Fixe price listed earlier in the thread will be the max, so by committing you should expect the price to be about $9 per bolt, cheaper if we get a deal. After we have so many commitments we can see what deal we can get on the bolts send the money in and we buy them. If this sounds like a good idea, I will go ahead and commit to Frugal Chariot, fun climb that doesn't get the credit it deserves.

Gyana Mudra_____________2
Frugal Chariot___________10
Smokin' Joe_____________10
The Infidel_______________8
Go Easy Billy Clyde!______10?
Goodstone_______________2?
Cruising Lane____________2
Rite of Passage__________2
Eye of the Needle_______12
Manic Impression________9
Trad Wagon_____________2
Funkadelic______________8
Flashlight_______________9
Appalachian Spring______10
Seppuku_______________10
There Goes
the Neighborhood_______10
Orange Juice___________12
Red Hot Chili Pepper_____8
Hardcore Jollies__________7
L'�le au ciel_____________9
Prime Directive_________13
Up Swift Creek
Without a Paddle_______2
Snotrocket______________2
Glory Be_______________10

[RRO]

We are contacting some companies for some hand drills and anchor set ups.

We have talked about this for years. Lets get it done this time.

[Gregory]

Does someone know what the priorities are? I know I have climbed some lines that aren't bad and some that are ticking time bombs.

[weber]

...We don't know the price per bolt at this time, however we can bet that the Fixe price listed earlier in the thread will be the max, so by committing you should expect the price to be about $9 per bolt, cheaper if we get a deal...

$4 per 8mm x 4 3/4 Titt bolt from Jim Taylor. That's the bigger one that we could not get to fail in pull tests - estimated to be about 9000 pounds in "average" corbin sandstone. Taylor's price might vary slightly due to Euro/$ exchange rate and shipping. This is Jim's actual cost. He only sells at his cost for re-bolting existing areas. Depending on how sloppy you are in dispensing goo (no one has yet done it as badly as I can) it will cost from $1.20 to $2 per bolt for the epoxy.

Bolt Source:
jim@appalachianclimbingschool.com

[Andrew]

I will help with what little experience I have with glue ins, which is installation of exactly one Titt bolt.

I can donate some funds also.

[caribe]

$4 per 8mm x 4 3/4 Titt bolt from Jim Taylor. That's the bigger one that we could not get to fail in pull tests

Rick I was hoping you would comment. These are timeless stainless steel right?

[ahab]

If you are a fan of one of these commit to buying new hardware for it, this way you will know where your money went.

if this ends up being the MO for FRC rehab, i'll take "the infidel" and "up swift creek w/o a paddle".

[ahab]

btw, "goodstone" and "up swift creek" currently do not have bolted anchors, but fixed pro + webbing.

[caribe]

http://www.fs.fed.us/r8/boone/lac/docum ... tislac.pdf

wow. some masters of clip art at the fs.

Reading through that stuff was eye-opening. If you read through the reports of the LAC process chronologically you get the sense that the ultra conversationalist hardliners lost the battle via a consensus process. There is room for maintenance of existing climbing and perhaps some development of new climbing in the FS managed areas.