Does rock climbing need to get "big"

Post by **ahab** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 3:35 pm

exactly...

Post by **Savage** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:30 pm

hahah... I never saw the post about the fort minor song. That actually made me laugh. At least rustyv is witty!

I think we need to stage a rap-battle. How about rocktoberfest...plenty of time to prepare some ill rhymes.

Post by **anticlmber** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:47 pm

gripster wrote:
anticlmber wrote: you thinking that just because somebody climbs something they are a prick is the same as you being a prick because you can't climb that.
i think people like you and rusty are pricks. maybe not only because you can climb strong, but that sure seems to fuel your fat egos. i didn't realize you we so sensitive? of course i don't really know if your stupid, i have never met you (that i know of). i will be nicer, i promise

where in this thread/website have i attacked your climbing ability?? where did i ever say i climb hard?? where did i ever say you don't deserve to be out somewhere?? where did i throw a number or even put emphasis on it??

answer: i didn't, haven't, and wouldn't.

so who is the overly sensitive one here?

you don't know if i am stupid yet you questioned my ability to think and said i was dumber than you thought. if we are going to argue ignorance please don't be ignorant.

if we had met, you'd know it.

Post by **gripster** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:05 pm

oooo, is that a threat? over a message board? don't get your panties in a wad now, i thought we were having fun. i don't mind if you call me stupid, or gay, or whatever. i have had more fun with you then anyone on this message board.

and sorry, i should have directed the other comment more directly to rusty. he actually drug you into that one. why would you carry that guy's ego around anyway?

and i hope i do know when i meet you. what are you going to kick my ass? try and jump my bones? i don't get it, please clarify.

Post by **krampus** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:10 pm

gripster wrote:oooo, is that a threat? over a message board? don't get your panties in a wad now, i thought we were having fun.

no really, if you met him, you'd know

Post by **Cleveland** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:28 pm

512OW wrote:Rusty, you contradict yourself. We'd be "dumbing down" the sport, yet 7 year olds would be climbing 5.15? Wouldn't that be progress?

rdo'c... there have been secret crags as long as climbing has existed. Its called human nature.

Climbing could only be helped if it became more popular. Hell, it already has been. Look what its done for Miguel. For the owners of Waterstone at the New. For guidebook authors. For the thousands of people who work in outdoor stores, gyms, factories, and guiding services. For all the small business owners who cater to the climbing community around Rifle, Lander, Moab, Yosemite, Fayetteville, Slade, and every other small climbing town. Look at the PMRP. Think that would've happened without popularity? No way. Look at the number of people whose lives have been improved by climbing... and the kids they'll influence... and the kids they'll influence. How can it be a bad thing to have more people who CARE about nature?

Don't be so short sighted.

Very insightful, I agree.

Post by **rustyvasectomy** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:38 pm

512OW wrote: Climbing could only be helped if it became more popular. Hell, it already has been. Look what its done for Miguel. For the owners of Waterstone at the New. For guidebook authors. For the thousands of people who work in outdoor stores, gyms, factories, and guiding services. For all the small business owners who cater to the climbing community around Rifle, Lander, Moab, Yosemite, Fayetteville, Slade, and every other small climbing town. Look at the PMRP. Think that would've happened without popularity? No way. Look at the number of people whose lives have been improved by climbing... and the kids they'll influence... and the kids they'll influence. How can it be a bad thing to have more people who CARE about nature?
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I got 99 problems but your post ain't one!

Post by **Savage** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:47 pm

gripster wrote:oooo, is that a threat? over a message board? don't get your panties in a wad now, i thought we were having fun. i don't mind if you call me stupid, or gay, or whatever. i have had more fun with you then anyone on this message board.

and sorry, i should have directed the other comment more directly to rusty. he actually drug you into that one. why would you carry that guy's ego around anyway?

and i hope i do know when i meet you. what are you going to kick my ass? try and jump my bones? i don't get it, please clarify.

i think he was implying that he is unforgettable and his presence is awe-inspiring. But I'm sure you'd be one lucky man to experience the powerful yet passionate lover known as anticlimber (aka tenderheart bear).

Post by **Crankmas** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:50 pm

growth can certainly have its plus side with the benefits to local merchants being a great example, it seems the ol' human nature desire to instill competitiveness (?) to almost every endeavor comes across as the negative but like odub stated what would be the loss if some skinny kids pushed standards its not like Paris Hilton is gonna stop digging me

Post by **Crankmas** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:56 pm

oh oh yeah man, in California the offroad vehicle dudes and dudettes have had a fund that was covered specifically by that user group, it paid for law enforcement and trail upkeep etc. on land that had been granted OHV useage- now with the economic crunch (thanks illegals- what part of illegal do you not understand obama you sorry sack of shit) the state wants to divert those funds into general usage which would gut the effort- point to be- organizations like climbers coalitions should be wary of government entanglement of funds which is a scenario that could come from growth brah