Please correct me if I'm wrong...

Post by **DriskellHR** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:41 pm

who the hell cares? dumb thread #956,388,392

Post by **rustyvasectomy** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:32 pm

red is better than the new. the red is famous for its steep shit but has plenty of good face climbs too (funk rock, sky bridge ridge, super slab). the new is famous for its good face climbs, but the steep routes there are poop. Even if take the glory hole, put it on top of the coliseum and then throw the cirque in there, it still wont be half as good as the motherlode. Basically, if you are at the red and you are looking for an endless wall style climb of the same quality, you can find it. But if you are at the new, and you want to climb something like the madness, then you are better off heading to cathedral and spraying about how organic your cup of joe is.

Post by **charlie** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:12 am

Some people call it Red, some call it the Gorge. We know who you are.

The New crushes the gorge for trad.

Post by **Rotarypwr345704** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 3:18 am

The New crushes the gorge for trad.
Who gives a shit? Hey. You see that crack? I'm going to climb it. But I'm going to do it with ground-up ethics as I struggle up this 5.9. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad there is trad. Trad works out for me like Roadside and Muir work out for the rest of the "Red" or "Gorge" : It keeps all the gumbies out of where I'm climbing.

Post by **Danny** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 3:39 am

i like gumbys.

Post by **rhunt** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:24 pm

gripster wrote:tell me your not saying the new is better than the red....

so you're not comparing the long wall to endless wall and I am not saying the new is better than the red.

Post by **gripster** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:02 pm

rhunt wrote:
gripster wrote:tell me your not saying the new is better than the red....
so you're not comparing the long wall to endless wall and I am not saying the new is better than the red.

that's good, it's a pointless argument. the endless wall is way to long anyway

Post by **Winterstorm** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:13 pm

Although the Red is hardly a "gorge" compared to the New. Can someone tell me where the actual gorge is at the red river gorge?

the fact that the "gorge" may not be clearly apparent as a cleft in the earth does not detract from the fact that it is indeed a "gorge" carved into the terrain by the "Red" 8)

Post by **tbwilsonky** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:21 pm

cleft. awkward terminology. this is really gonna bother me later.

Post by **cramacam** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:23 pm

ah yes the New is much better than the Red. Why don't you... I mean, we all go there instead of the Red... See you there! Can you swing by here and give all these other folks a ride too?