Will the Aliens Fail?

Post by **ahab** » Tue May 26, 2009 5:05 pm

here's the actual thread on RC.com:
http://tinyurl.com/qehs5a[/url]

to save you from reading 18 pages of headache, it breaks down something like this:

1. dude that tests the breaking strength of various climbing equipment tests some used aliens and they fail under spec
2. shit storm ensues between alien loyalists and alien defectors concerning the validity of testing used/bootied cams
3. it is decided that 5 new aliens should be tested
4. a paypal account is set up for climbers to donate money to purchase new aliens

so the question is: will the new Aliens fail below their listed strength ratings?

Post by **krampus** » Tue May 26, 2009 5:09 pm

new aliens aquired, old aliens tested, break below strength rating, new aliens used to climb........suckers 8)

Post by **ahab** » Tue May 26, 2009 5:56 pm

hmm, a genius scam kramp. i would tweak it a lil bit though...
new aliens aquired, gear4rocks cams purchased on ebay tested, break below strength rating, new aliens and used aliens added to personal rack.

Post by **Saxman** » Tue May 26, 2009 6:14 pm

After skimming through the thread, I am interested in the metal used to make the cams since there appears to be some question as to hardness.

Post by **ahab** » Tue May 26, 2009 6:31 pm

sax, do you use aliens?

Post by **bcombs** » Tue May 26, 2009 6:41 pm

Yep, he pulls the trigger to take them out while cleaning on TR.

Post by **bentley** » Tue May 26, 2009 6:58 pm

we saw this guy breaking stuff at the NRG event the other weekend. It was amazing how weak the aliens were.

On the flip side of that Bart's cams did AMAZINGLY well!!
I don't know the link to his site...

Post by **Saxman** » Tue May 26, 2009 8:46 pm

Ahab: no, I don't own any. Of course, I would hope no climbing company would cut any corners, but we all know the drive for profit may make some people cut into previously determined margins of safety either through choice of materials, craftsmanship, and/or testing.

Post by **c_mejean** » Tue May 26, 2009 9:48 pm

yeah, those gear4rocks cams are sweet! I sold my C4's for a full rack of em

Post by **ahab** » Wed May 27, 2009 11:56 am

adatesman wrote:Of the 13 new Aliens (including 2 offsets, dates ranging from 408 to 509), only 5 failed above their rated strength. The percentage of the rating held ranged from 63.3% to 116.7%, with an overall average of 94.3%.

Of the 9 used Aliens (dates ranging from early/mid 1990's to 1204), only 2 failed above their rated strength. The percentage of the rating held ranged from 54.7% to 105.0%, with an overall average of 81.9%.