You are right, I am a self serving A-hole, ask any ex-girlfriend. However, I help people get gear down all the time with proper shit talking of course, and I have been climbing long enough to pay attention to these little things called context clues. I see you have been climbing a while too but maybe you can learn something here. If you get on a rout above your head, more power to ya, but if your technical ability to manipulate gear is so low that your only choice when the climb becomes too hard is to leave gear in a well established crack, well then you fail. You abandoned your friend, or big bro as the case may be, don't cry and ask for it back unless there is someone at the crag right then who is willing to help.rdpoints wrote:So Krampus, how would you know the piece was left there from an emergency or the climber had to bail?? That's the diff between climbers like you and Sam, you're a self-serving A-hole and Sam is a nice guy.
As far as these context clues I speak of, well you might have to put your thinking cap on for this one. How many emergencies have you been present for at a crag? Hopefully none. But imagine something happening that deserved such immediate attention that all your friends and bro's are now expendable. Would you take the time to clean the rout? Concentrate now, its one of those zen budism questions.
And ultimately, Driskel has the best point that should something happen, even at indian creek, someone would find out about it and help out, I know I would. But if I just found out that you ballied out on a "crazy 9+" well....
if your a woman your shakin it
if your a pirate your takin it
