Negative Comments

Post by **caribe** » Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:44 pm

SCIN wrote:I'm open to suggestions. You say there are so many other things to do to obliterate it. Please provide some suggestions that would take the anonymity away from flaming comments in the online guidebook. I want to hear it because saying there are many other ways to do it without providing concrete examples is causing you to sound like a politician or a manager.

-pushed by ray, this issue continues. Perhaps a wait period of 24h-48h before Sickboy07 will be able to post would decrease the negativity and increase the utility of the site. Anything workable that government has done to control gun crime like register and/or wait should greatly curb the negativity that often accompanies cowardice or/and irascibility.

Post by **caribe** » Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:46 pm

michaelarmand wrote:....being able to police ourselves to keep the online guide from being a venue to launch personal attacks.

--This is really the crux of the issue. Why should the online freaking guide ever be a venue for personal attacks?

Post by **SCIN** » Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:50 pm

So moderation of the online guide is what pkananen is suggesting. We should all spend time moderating the comments that someone else deems offensive. I can't wait to receive all of the "Offensive Comment" alerts.........especially from the overly sensitive types.

I do agree that if someone's real name is used in an attack it's not cool. I've removed some pretty nasty comments before because someone was attacking someone in the online guide and using that person's real name. I'd be open to being a little more aggressive with removing stuff like that.

The problem is not only with anonymous comments. There are many flaming comments in the online guide posted under usernames. Just because someone has a username doesn't make them afraid to be obnoxious and it doesn't take their anonymity away.

Post by **caribe** » Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:57 pm

SCIN wrote:So moderation of the online guide is what pkananen is suggesting.

--I don't think that solution is tenable. Everyone appreciates the administrative conundrum that this situation presents. Let's just live with it. Current status quo might be the best we can do.

Post by **SCIN** » Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:59 pm

caribe wrote: -pushed by ray, this issue continues. Perhaps a wait period of 24h-48h before Sickboy07 will be able to post would decrease the negativity and increase the utility of the site. Anything workable that government has done to control gun crime like register and/or wait should greatly curb the negativity that often accompanies cowardice or/and irascibility.

Dude, you're comparing gun control to comments in the online guidebook. No way in hell I'm going to put a 24-48 hour hold time on comments in the online guidebook. Why wouldn't that extend to the forums as well? There is plenty of venom spewed there just as there is in the online guidebook.

Post by **caribe** » Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:03 pm

SCIN wrote:No way in hell I'm going to put a 24-48 hour hold time on comments in the online guidebook. Why wouldn't that extend to the forums as well? There is plenty of venom spewed there just as there is in the online guidebook.

--Yeah, I would apply it to forums also. This would filter all those challenged by commitment. This is really the only way. Ray, don't misinterpret me. I am an anarchist at heart.

Post by **jordancolburn** » Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:03 pm

Now, I'm usually all for random thread hijacking, but I don't think the online guide should be a place for comments about much else other than the route, when it turns into 10 succesive posts of anonomous name calling about something else , i just stop reading, but I could be missing important saftey information later in the comments because it is overshadowed. I second the flag system, lets an impartial third party know whats up, and they can make the judgement over whether or not it provides useful information about the route.
*edit for spelling*

Post by **caribe** » Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:07 pm

Ray, remember those inflatable boxing gloves that we used to play with when we were kids? This feels something like that. I can even hear mine squeaking against your face. Ah yes, to be young and homoerotic again.

Post by **krampus** » Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:23 pm

caribe wrote: why are people online so mean, leave Brittany alone

I have to disagree with you on this one caribe, online posting about a rout is no different than online posting in a forum, ya gotta take the good with the bad and only moderate when absolutly necessary. Sure most comments are not helpful but in the end its all just entertainment, one way or the other.

Post by **pru** » Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:25 pm

a basic truth so many are forgetting: if you don't like it, don't read it. Can I get a big DUH?

Use the guidebook, ignore the comments if you don't like them. Jeebus. It's not like they matter to your climbing experience. Go out and fucking climb and stop bitching