I think we have enough votes to call this a victory.
Climbing a route via Trad protection is much harder than using bolted pro. This is not an excuse, it is just simple fact.
Which type of climbing style is the hardest?
So what does that do or mean for you? Do you feel better about yourself?powell.se wrote:I think we have enough votes to call this a victory.
Climbing a route via Trad protection is much harder than using bolted pro. This is not an excuse, it is just simple fact.
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I can think of plenty of sport lines where clipping the draw was a crucial element of the crux of the route. Most of them are in the 5.13 range. Some of them put you face to face with huge ass whippers which can sometimes be pretty close to dangerous. I can't recall many trad lines in the Red which have that element. It's kind of tough to place gear on Days of Rage I guess.
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I hate to break it to you children but the answer is none of the above. The hardest style of climbing is alpine mountain climbing. The approach starting in the middle of the night. Soloing the cracks the "traddies" whine about. Throw in a little ice climbing and mixed climbing. Seven solid pitches to the summit. And then jump some crevasses on the descent. Break base camp, drink some champagne and hike back out to the car after a 16 hour climb.
Mountain climbing is a sport. Trad, sport, bouldering are all games.
Mountain climbing is a sport. Trad, sport, bouldering are all games.
"Be responsible for your actions and sensitive to the concerns of other visitors and land managers. ... Your reward is the opportunity to climb in one of the most beautiful areas in this part of the country." John H. Bronaugh
Actually I just thought of a lot more trad lines with tough placements. I think when you're at your limit it's just hard to stop and place or clip or whatever.......trad or sport.SCIN wrote:I can think of plenty of sport lines where clipping the draw was a crucial element of the crux of the route. Most of them are in the 5.13 range. Some of them put you face to face with huge ass whippers which can sometimes be pretty close to dangerous. I can't recall many trad lines in the Red which have that element. It's kind of tough to place gear on Days of Rage I guess.
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