Which type of climbing style is the hardest?

[powell.se]

Let the voters decide!

[SCIN]

I voted for toproping because the rope gets in the way on difficult moves.

[powell.se]

Fair enough

[512OW]

Too vague. After I place the protection, will it be good? Whats the landing like? Water? Sand? Concrete? How tall is it? Where is the crux, beginning or up high?

Besides all that, since "climbing ability" implies that you're talking of the whole package... movement skills, efficiency, mastery of techniques, mental control, ability to place pro... then the answer is easily "None of the above". All would be equal, assuming they are at your limit.

[Crankmas]

should I assume the sun's location is the same for all styles? I dislike having the sun in my eyes while climbing but usually its just because the shadows are too harsh for my Stone Nudes 2010 work, so smile and keep those tips up

[512OW]

I think I get it now. What you guys don't understand is that the difficulty of placing gear is already built into the grades. You don't get extra credit for it.

Look at Synchronicity. It'd be 10c if you didn't have to place gear... but it isn't.

And Crankenstein. 5.9 at best if you didn't have to place gear.

However, most cracks don't deserve a higher grade for gear placement. There isn't a single placement that ups the grade on The Inhibitor, Rock Wars, Hidden Dragon, Welcome To Ole Kentuck, blah blah blah.

[pigsteak]

easy OW...let the mad haters have their day in court. It is much more fun to "pretend" that trad climbing is the "serious man's sport", and oh, so much harder.

since the question is worded for a redpoint burn, which assumes you have the route dialed beyond belief, then the answer is "all are equal". duh. 5.11 is 5.11 is 5.11 is 5.11......

and since "all are equal" is not an option in this poll, it is VERY apparent that the poster has a hidden agenda to protect his preferred style, and to ignore the fact that maybe he just sucks and is too lazy to get good at the chosen style.

new poll.

[512OW]

easy OW...let the mad haters have their day in court. It is much more fun to "pretend" that trad climbing is the "serious man's sport", and oh, so much harder.

since the question is worded for a redpoint burn, which assumes you have the route dialed beyond belief, then the answer is "all are equal". duh. 5.11 is 5.11 is 5.11 is 5.11......

and since "all are equal" is not an option in this poll, it is VERY apparent that the poster has a hidden agenda to protect his preferred style, and to ignore the fact that maybe he just sucks and is too lazy to get good at the chosen style.

new poll.

Sorry. Again you are correct.

Screw all you 5.13 bolt clippers. Lets see how strong you are when presented with a splitter hand crack! Chuffers...

Is that better?

[pigsteak]

better.

[Horatio Felacio]

what's the best v9 in the world?