Bolt the cracks and stop hiding...

[512OW]

[quote="powell.se"]Dear 512OW,

My knee jerk reaction to your post was to tell you that you’re a Punk Ass Bitch who doesn’t know what the fuck they’re talking about. Then I figured maybe I should give you clear a cut example of why climbing a Trad route is indeed more difficult than climbing a Sport route. But then again, there’s no reason I can’t do both.

If, as you say, Trad is “NO MORE DIFFICULT than Sport climbingâ€

[L K Day]

Trad is stll the real deal, while sport turns climbing into a pure game. I don't think anything will ever change that.

For example, the experience of doing a hard alpine route onsight can't be replicated on a sport climb.

Real climbing is not only harder, it's better.

That said, you should be spending most of your "climbing" time in the gym and on sport climbs.

[ahab]

They climbed the place out. There are only 7 cracks here worth doing...

Sadly, that's only a slight exaggeration.

let's see the list so i don't waste my time on any unworthy choss piles not included in the magnificent 7.

[512OW]

They climbed the place out. There are only 7 cracks here worth doing...

Sadly, that's only a slight exaggeration.

let's see the list so i don't waste my time on any unworthy choss piles not included in the magnificent 7.

Hmmm....

From easiest to hardest:

Cavers (doesn't count against my 7 because its hardly even climbing)
Roadside Attraction
RockWars
Return of Geoff Beene
Inhibitor
B3
Mr. Get It On Jones
Welcome to Ole Kentuck

If I had to choose a 2nd 7:
Autumn
Andromeda Strain
Where Lizards Dare
Rebar
Thunder Chicken
Fibrulator Direct
Hidden Dragon

[ahab]

no cuntry lovin'? perhaps it'll be included in the 3rd set of 7...

[512OW]

no cuntry lovin'? perhaps it'll be included in the 3rd set of 7...

The second and third pitches of Country Lovin are fuckin amazing, but the first pitch sucks. If you skip it and just jump to the ledge from the boulder, and then traverse to the roof crack... then it'd be in the first set.

[charlie]

The important thing to note here is the SEC crushes the Big 12 and the Buckeyes should just ignore their BCS invitations from now on.

[captain static]

Thanks Charlie for finally posting a meaningful comment.

[charlie]

Just trying to help.

[TradMike]

Route finding, effective gear placements and self control is what makes Trad climbing more difficult than Sport. When a bolt is placed this difficulty is erased or reduced significantly. Unless you are saying a bolters efforts are no effort at all.