McCain

[tomdarch]

McCain takes a boat ride with some questionable cat and Tom wants to ride him out, monkey boy sits in church with a radical USA hating SOB and hey it ain't nothin but a thing, pathetic.

It's interesting you should mention church...
- Palin turned her back on the Catholic church to become a Pentecostal - that won't play well among the critical conservative Catholic block. They're just as deep into the "my church or hell" shit as all the other fundies.
- While Obama was never in attendance at any of Rev. Wright's controversial sermons, Palin sat through a talk by the founder of Jews for Jesus when he said that Israelis who are killed in terrorist attacks are being punished by God for not converting to Christianity. As far as I know, she has not publicly condemned this sick shit.
- The pastor, Ed Kalnins, said, "I hate criticisms towards the president, because it’s like criticisms towards the pastor—it’s almost like, it’s not going to get you anywhere, you know, except for hell. That’s what it’ll get you." Yep - criticize Bush, go to hell. (Hmm, I wonder if Bush's IRS will review their tax-exempt status any time soon?) Here's their site, wade in if you've got the stomach:
http://www.wasillaag.net/all.html
- In general, Pentecostals are Creationists (typically "6000 year old earth"), anti-Gay and do believe in some form of "the Rapture." Oh, and when you think of people "Speaking in Tongues," that's the classic Pentecostal style of worship.
- At the same time that Palin ran for Lieutenant Governor, 2002, she started attending the nondenominational Wasilla Bible Church, to play down her Pentecostal faith. Small problem today - the Bible Church is associated with a "cure the gays" group.
- As governor, she and her family attend the Juneau Christian Center (in the state capital of Juneau, of course.) The "Christian Center" is a Pentecostal church, but somehow hasn't gotten around to putting that information on their signs yet. I'm sure they're working on it. Maybe the $25,000 state grant they got from the state last year will help pay for that. Nope, no Pork under Palin...

Which is scarier a politician who attends a church with a pissed off old black pastor who has left-wing politics, or a politician who "speaks in tongues" and believes that the "final battle between good and evil" will happen any day now?

[tomdarch]

Butler should have saved his breath, being so old and feeble.

You mean "He's wasting his time. McCain's lock on "McCain=John Rambo" is so strong that no factual criticism will ever make a dent in the myth"?

I finally made time to listen to what Dr. Butler had to say. I also read what he wrote back in March of 2008, well before the race really heated up.
http://www.military.com/opinion/0,15202,164859,00.html

But Dr. Butler and McCain are quite different men. At the Naval Academy, Butler graduated in the top quarter of his class, McCain fifth from the bottom. Having been there to see McCain in action, he points out that McCain may have only graduated because of his father and grandfather.

You'll notice that Butler was taken POW in '65 and McCain two and a half years later in '67, but they started their active careers around the same time. McCain had postings in Florida, the Caribbean and the Mediterranean after getting out of the Academy. He married his first wife in '65 and they had their first child soon thereafter. It was only then, in '67, that he requested combat duty. I'll be the one to say it: it's fucked up that waits until he has a wife, her kids and their new baby before choosing to go to Vietnam. It's also arguably fucked up that he waited so long - Butler had already been a POW for two years - McCain waited until the war was really in full swing before heading over. John Kerry went to Vietnam at almost the same time, but he was right out of college.

Butler was a POW longer, and endured two and a half more years of the earlier, nastier treatment than McCain. He points out that they all had the opportunity to leave out of turn, and almost all of them stuck to their duty. This is the point that really deflates McCain's hype. I really thought that when McCain turned down out-of-turn release it was a special case for him because his father was the commander of forces in Vietnam. To learn that they all had to face that option and basically all did the same thing as McCain really puts things in perspective.

It's afterward that I also find interesting. Butler got home and got his PhD. McCain got home, cheated on his disabled wife repeatedly(and used the POW thing as an excuse). He only stayed in the Navy until it was made clear that he would not be given a major sea command and was unlikely to ever make it to admiral. So he worked for Cindy's dad for a while, then got a big loan from them and went into politics.

Read Dr. Butler's piece for military.com, it seems to really put things in perspective to understand that 600 other heroes faced the same situation as McCain.

[Crankmas]

maybe nobama's plane will crash into mcsame's and the world will be saved from either of these buffoons