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tomdarch
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pigsteak wrote:which convention will they feel more "comfy" at? that doesn't even deserve an answer. I hope neither.
At the recent Texas state Republican convention, someone felt mighty "comfy" distributing this button:
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Someone also felt fine distributing buttons that read, "Press 1 for English. Press 2 for Deportation" Nope, no racism among Texas Republicans. Sorry about the totally unfounded stereotyping.

I also wish that racists (of all sorts) were unwelcome at both Democratic and Republican gatherings. The sad truth is that prior to the Civil Rights movement, the Democratic party was something very different than it is today. It more than tolerated the Jim Crow, racist "Dixiecrats". (As i've said, here in Chicago, there was a strong aspect of overt racism in the Democratic party, particularly the city council opposition to Mayor Washington. That was as recent as the 80s)

When the Democratic party realigned itself to an actually progressive orientation, the southern racists no longer had a home. The Republican party turned its back on Lincoln and welcomed them in during the sixties, just as they would welcome the fundamentalists during the eighties and nineties. (Do I need to point out that Reagan kicked off his'80 presidential campaign in a Mississippi town that is known for nothing but the murder of three civil rights workers? Nope, rejecting the racists, for sure! Willie Horton? Push polls about McCain's "black baby"?) Today they are not the party of Reconstruction, the same way as they are no longer a "live and let live" version of "true" conservatism. (Case in point: the anti-gay ballot measures that were used in the 2004 election to get "base" Republican voters out to support Bush.)
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pigsteak wrote:maybe charlie, but I have been utterly appalled by the blue blood democrats who refuse to vote for Obama becasue of his skin color. And I can guarantee you I have heard more than one person say it. And they say it so matter of factly it is scarey.

I had no idea how deep racism ran until I moved to Kentucky. I guess I was sheltered until now. I love KY, but dammit, people need to stand up to this ignorant crap. He's half black..freakin big deal. He's a Christian.....big deal. If he were a Muslim, who cares? Does't say the Pledge of Allegiance? A lie.

Get the facts. Don't vote for him (or do vote for him) because of his policies. Same with McCain. He's not a third term Bush. The two of them couldn't be more different. Sort of like comparing Obama to Liebermann.

I'm done. I had just heard it again today (he's a Muslim)..and it drives me insane.
I totally agree with you on most of that!

But you need to "refine" part of that. McCain 2000 was an asile-crossing, maverick Republican who stood in sharp contrast to what Bush would become. McCain '08 really is indistinguishable from Bush. It's pathetic what he's willing to do to try to get elected. I'd love to have met heroic, independent, patriotic McCain 2000, but this shitty McCain '08 just sucks.
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tomdarch
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ynot wrote:Barrack Hussien Obama. A name like that and he's not a muslim?
The true story of his secret Muslim history is laid out here:
http://www.salon.com/comics/boll/2008/04/03/boll/
It's the perfect plan to overthrow America!
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L K Day
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Tomdarch - I objected to talk of assassination because I think that's all it was, talk. If I'd thought for a second that there was more to it than that, I'd have taken appropriate action. What pissed me off was your "recasting" of my words, something that you have been quick to do in the past. We'll just disagree on your assertion that conservatism is racist at it's core or that the "war on terror" is based on U.S. racism. But I don't condone racism, I don't cover for racism, and I won't "recast" your words to try to smear you and your beliefs. Your proclivity to twist the words of others is dishonest and nothing more than intellectual thuggery. There's nothing smart or clever about it.
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Post by Crankmas »

politicians are unworthy of assassination- they should just be taken out and shot, if you want racism go to Boston- if you just want ignorance you can hardly do better than Ky and WVa- that's why I live in my little home in Seattle located in Winchester.
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I missed you guys :wink:
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Post by TradMike »

Paris says McCain and Obama are stupid. I think here energy policy trumps both.

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Politics are gay.
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