It's booty. What the finder does with it is up to him or her. If I happened to find out who left it I always gave it back.
Once in Boulder canyon I caught up with a guy attempting to clean a deeply buried Friend that his partner had placed at their belay. The Friend was stuck pretty good and this guy was muttering all kinds of curse words and harshing on his partner who was out of ear shot. Thinking I'd be helpful I said "I know I good trick for getting those out, if you'd like me to show you". Well the asshole turned and snapped something at me about how he was quite capable of cleaning gear and didn't need my help. Well, he gave up shortly thereafter and took off seconding the pitch. I took that as a pretty serious challenge, had the Friend out in nothing flat and was off leading the pitch. I topped out just as the jerk was laying into his partner about fixing the Friend at the belay. I just pitched him the piece with a "here you go", and starting bringing my partner up. I'd thought about keeping it, but decided it would be way more fun to humiliate the jerk.
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Larry, a classy gentlemen as always. I recall a trip to Seneca Rocks with you, on the east face around Alcoa Presents or thereabouts (probably around '78 or '79). As we were climbing, the leader of another party overhead and nearby tugs some hexes out and comments on the "LKD" letters stamped on them. As we summit and make our way south along the narrow rib, you approach the guy and say "Hello, I'm Larry Kingsley Day"! The nuts were placed by you on a previous trip. Classic Day!
I don't know about the gentleman part, but yeah, that was before I learned not to "over protect". I'd find such secure placements for those hexes that my second couldn't figure out the puzzle. Too many times I'd end up rapping to clean the pitch. I didn't weld them in, I just wanted placements where I didn't have to worry about rope drag lifting them out. Eventually I got a little smarter and went for "good enough" but easy to clean.
Funny that I left anything behind at Seneca though. I bet my partner learned to minimize the hassle by just not mentioning any "fixed" pieces she encountered when cleaning.
Good to hear from you John, take care.
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if anyone wants some booty (i think it's still there) and are around Indian Creek Crag, go up the wide crack on the pinnacle boulder up and to the left...
green friend, few slings, few carabiners, and a blue tri-cam. I bailed. not proud of it, but hey, I'm alive.
cheers to he/she who finds it.
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chris
yeah, Indian Castle. The view was amazing, but I was just climbing crappily and was ready to get out of there. The guide book wasn't too specific about how to descend the "hole." I think if I had some beta about the route/crag I might have been better off (again, should have thought about that beFORE we went out).
A repeat visit is in store.
what is is what is not is not is not that it
chris
L Day wrote:It's booty. What the finder does with it is up to him or her. If I happened to find out who left it I always gave it back.
Once in Boulder canyon I caught up with a guy attempting to clean a deeply buried Friend that his partner had placed at their belay. The Friend was stuck pretty good and this guy was muttering all kinds of curse words and harshing on his partner who was out of ear shot. Thinking I'd be helpful I said "I know I good trick for getting those out, if you'd like me to show you". Well the asshole turned and snapped something at me about how he was quite capable of cleaning gear and didn't need my help. Well, he gave up shortly thereafter and took off seconding the pitch. I took that as a pretty serious challenge, had the Friend out in nothing flat and was off leading the pitch. I topped out just as the jerk was laying into his partner about fixing the Friend at the belay. I just pitched him the piece with a "here you go", and starting bringing my partner up. I'd thought about keeping it, but decided it would be way more fun to humiliate the jerk.
Well, he gave up shortly thereafter and took off seconding the pitch. I took that as a pretty serious challenge, had the Friend out in nothing flat and was off leading the pitch. I topped out just as the jerk was laying into his partner about fixing the Friend at the belay. I just pitched him the piece with a "here you go", and starting bringing my partner up. I'd thought about keeping it, but decided it would be way more fun to humiliate the jerk.
