Bill Ramsey

Post by **the lurkist** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:55 pm

Can someone point me to the piece Bill Ramsey wrote detailing his decision to move from South Bend and Notre Dame to Vegas and UNLV? What medium was it in, website, anything.
thanks- The Lurkist

Post by **meetVA** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:57 pm

Maybe a Black Diamond catalogue?

Post by **Lander** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:12 pm

Man, I remember that piece too. But I just can't remember where it was.

Post by **mike_dawson** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:30 pm

Lurk,

Here's a quote of it at least:

http://www.redriverclimbing.com/viewtop ... ght=ramsey

Post by **neuroshock** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:31 pm

Pages 12-13 as printed (page 8 of the PDF) of the BD Spring 2008 Climbing catalog

http://www.bdel.com/pdf/s08/BD_SPRING_08_CLIMBING.pdf

Post by **the lurkist** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:57 pm

thanks. Bill said it well. "Meaning is not of life, but in life."

Post by **Saxman** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:07 pm

Where are you wanting to move to Lurk?

Post by **the lurkist** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:43 am

toward a yen and yang.

Post by **tbwilsonky** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:18 am

yeah, this piece is brilliant.

it does a nice job of drawing equivalences between the various things that compose a life. for me it helps reinforce the notion that careers are things we use to provide for climbing, and NOT things that somehow supersede the other endeavors that make us tick.

in other words, it's all about ticking.

Post by **the lurkist** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:14 pm

Freud said everyone seeks the same fundamental things in life- to love and be loved, and to have meaningful work. I believe this, but I think Freud neglected to mention in his equation the spice, which is in our case, climbing. It gives meaning, but can't be the sole meaning.