Replacing draws at Sanctuary and Solarium

Post by **ahab** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:37 pm

pigsteak wrote:Any one else want to step up and donate the cash to permanently equip a steep line at Muir?

how much $$$ would it cost to equip 1 line in the manner of which you speak?

Post by **bcombs** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:44 pm

Here is the cheapest steel biner I could find online...

http://www.nwbackpack.com/products/libe ... biners.php

Any of you folks who buy these on a regular basis know where I can find them any cheaper? If not I'm going to pick up a couple dozen of these.

Post by **caribe** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:44 pm

Ask them 4 $. That will shut them up.

As far as pusillanimous goes, if Brad Pit could use it in 12 Monkeys (1995), everyone should know it.

http://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/twelve_monkeys.html
" JEFFREY
WHO CARES WHAT PSYCHIATRISTS WRITE ON
WALLS?
(moves to Fale, jabs him with a finger)
You think I told her about the Army of
the 12 Monkeys? Impossible! Know why,
you pathetically ineffectual and
pusillanimous "pretend-friend-to-
animals"?! I'll tell you why: because
when I had anything to do with her six
years ago, there was no such thing -- I
hadn't even thought of it yet!"

Post by **bcombs** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:46 pm

ahab wrote:
pigsteak wrote:Any one else want to step up and donate the cash to permanently equip a steep line at Muir?
how much $$$ would it cost to equip 1 line in the manner of which you speak?

I think you could figure $10-$12 a bolt. That is my estimation based on the cost of steel biners I was able to find and then using cheap (but fat) dogbones like the Omega's or something.

Post by **ahab** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:50 pm

so, 11 bolts plus 2 anchors at $11.50 a bolt = roughly $150?

Post by **bcombs** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:52 pm

It could be cheaper than that. If you use Omega dirtbags for example they are just $9.00 or so each. The steel biner / quicklink / chain combination might be closer to $10.00 though. I'm trying to figure that out now.

Post by JR » Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:08 pm

Chains? Steel Biners? This shit sucks. Something about clunky crap hanging from otherwise beautiful routes makes me cringe. Take some of the best routes around and put the crappiest style biners,aka steel ovals, on the clipping ends of draws. Please don't go this route.

Post by **ahab** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:11 pm

has climbing in the red just turned a deeper shade of lame??

Post by **Andrew** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:15 pm

I think the best idea, is no perma draws or project draws at Muir. Sack up and hang them each time.

This is coming from the person who hates hanging draws.

Post by **SCIN** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:19 pm

JR wrote:Chains? Steel Biners? This shit sucks. Something about clunky crap hanging from otherwise beautiful routes makes me cringe. Take some of the best routes around and put the crappiest style biners,aka steel ovals, on the clipping ends of draws. Please don't go this route.

I'm almost positive we didn't buy ovals for the routes we'll be equipping. If we did we won't be hanging them. I'm pretty sure they're nice steel bent gates. Michelle will be confirming.