goosey wrote:I think it depends...if it's like a really hard climb, like a 14 or something, yeah, you're just a badass and I'd say you can put whatever the hell you want at the top. However, if you're putting containers of vagisil or whatever at the top of every 9 that you climb, I'd have to say stop watching the reardon videos, you aren't cool.
14 = badass....?????? i'm sorry you are a fucking idiot.
its a ROCKclimb. you didn't cure cancer, you aren't helping the homeless.
. He doesn't worship strong climbers, in fact he hates them. He hates climbers that litter too. He also hates cute screen names like, you guessed it, goosey. You get the picture. Shake it off Goosey.
i don't hate your screen name.
hate strong climbers, me?? no. hate in and of itself is a strong statement and means that you spend much time dwelling. on the contrary sir. the fact that people litter(or do many things) amuses me. but you knew that because you have me figured out. cheers to you mate!! you tell me you don't dislike litter/litterbugs??? then you are part of the problem if you do nothing about it. do i hate you for that?? no, your choice. but i do have my opinion since you have yours.
I'm not trying to promote littering, believe me, I do my best to keep all my trash where it belongs, not on the ground or wherever. I'm just saying that if you've worked really hard for a route then a small remnant isn't going to kill anyone, it will probably just be moved by the next climber. I think there is a major distinction between doing that and leaving crap all over the ground. And, anticlimber, I thank you for enlightening me on the fact that I'm not curing cancer when I climb, that's a big disappointment for me, I really thought I was doing something. However, I really don't think that your putting food in the mouths of the homeless when you get pissed off and pick up some trash.
goosey...so would it be ok if every single climber who sends face up to the crack sticks a "memento" in the crack on the way down? you know, just a little something..it won't hurt anyone.
let's see, 857 "mementos" in 2008 on one climb...hmm, I guess I'm game.
See, that's what I was saying before...people should know the limitations with this otherwise the red will start looking like a landfill. I'm just saying that if it's a really difficult climb that not too many people can do, one object will not equate to clubbing baby seals, starving the homeless, supporting lord voldemort or any other unethical activities.
no but retardism breeds retardism. newsflash: LOTS of people climb at the gorge and LOTS of them climb hard. you know if you were arguing for some chossy, bushwack, trad route you might get sway on the once in a while comment. of course ynot will be the only one out there so it don't matter.
you are asking people to police their actions, which mind you was done in the past, and what happened?? shit got fucked up. and oh, you want to leave a "trinket" for someone else to carry out. news flash #2: THATS GARBAGE!!!
leave no trace. it isn't hippie shit its the norm. once again, if you want to "litter" in any form, dead skin is OK, stay at home and whit trash your own yard. nada has enough for now.
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