jerry aid

Post by **bentley** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 12:17 pm

I nominate Anticlimber to go there and tell them!

Post by **endercore** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 12:23 pm

I thought it was pretty funny when he was like "we have a confirmed a5, there's the corpse. Who's next to lead this pitch?"

Post by **512OW** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:39 pm

Brilliant.

Post by **Evan** » Sun Mar 09, 2008 7:32 pm

aid climbing is not actually rock climbing

That's a matter of perspective. If you consider how we got to where we are in this sport (and the people that got us there), I think that's a pretty egregious statement. I agree that drilling and hooking or bolting your way up a face is not climbing but aid is a part of climbing if you climb longer routes. EVEN if you are a professional climber. I don't think this debate is about clean aid, though.

Just as sport climbers stick clip, top rope, tick and so on, trad climbers have to aid certain pitches to climb a route. As you progress (sport or trad) you can get closer to climbing a route clean, ground up. That's why you keep at it, but it's too bad when folks mess things up for everyone else.

Post by JR » Mon Mar 24, 2008 1:54 pm

Evan wrote: Just as sport climbers stick clip, top rope, tick and so on, trad climbers have to aid certain pitches to climb a route. As you progress (sport or trad) you can get closer to climbing a route clean, ground up. That's why you keep at it, but it's too bad when folks mess things up for everyone else.

This appears wrong on a bunch of levels. Sport climbers don't have to stick clip, tope rope and tick hold no more than trad climbers have to climb routes that have aid on them. They opt to.
In reference to the second part. If it wasn't for all those folks messing things up(pounding the shit out of El Cap) I would venture to say there wouldn't be one free route up El Cap. So like Bentley said it is one of the most chipped climbs on earth.