Alright Day, I'll stay in. I can't vote the other guys no matter how f'd up the race looks. Mccain has been decent on the war, I guess.
I can't wait for someone to ask Obama to recite the pledge of allegiance, I heard that he won't say it.
Will he be sworn in with his hand on the Bible or the Koran?
These may be outdated notions but our country's foundation in God as supreme creator of equal men won't disappear easily.
I hope this doesn't start a shitstorm.
OK you F'n politicos
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ScrmnPeeler
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Uh, this place is kinda shitstorm central. But for whatever reason, the clouds don't seem to be brewing tonight. Tomdarch must be out of town, or something. Anyway, I suspect that all the weird crap we'll hear about Obama is a pack of lies. I'll just take the man at his word, on perhaps the only thing that he's been specific about, and that's the war. Come November, I think more Americans will have confidence in McCain as "leader of the free world" than feel that way about Obama, even though McCain is an F'n Republican.
It's funny that a group of terrorists that numbered less than 200 based in Afghanistan in 2001 can somehow sustain "enormous damage" in Iraq. Yep, let's keep with the Republicans so we can have millions of Al Qaida to fight.L K Day wrote:"It's way too soon to call Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda spiritual outcasts among Arab Muslims, but they have in fact sustained enormous damage throughout the region because of Iraq.
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[size=75]You are as bad as Alan, and even he hits the mark sometimes. -charlie
"Not all conservatives are stupid, but most stupid people are conservative." - John Stuart Mill[/size]
"Not all conservatives are stupid, but most stupid people are conservative." - John Stuart Mill[/size]
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DriskellHR
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It's funny that a group of terrorists that numbered less than 200 based in Afghanistan in 2001 can somehow sustain "enormous damage" in Iraq. Yep, let's keep with the Republicans so we can have millions of Al Qaida to fight.
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Yet more misleading bullshit from it's usual source. Here's another view:
How big is al-Qaeda?
"It’s impossible to say precisely, because al-Qaeda is decentralized. Estimates range from several hundred to several thousand members.
Is al-Qaeda connected to other terrorist organizations?
Yes. Among them:
* Egyptian Islamic Jihad
* The Libyan Islamic Fighting Group
* Islamic Army of Aden (Yemen)
* Jama'at al-Tawhid wal Jihad (Iraq)
* Lashkar-e-Taiba and Jaish-e-Muhammad (Kashmir)
* Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan
* Salafist Group for Call and Combat and the Armed Islamic Group (Algeria)
* Abu Sayyaf Group (Malaysia, Philippines)
* Jemaah Islamiya (Southeast Asia) "
I think it's a fair bet that Al Qaeda and their affiliates easily number in the many thousands. Their supporters and sympathizers number in the millions. Regardless of how many "members" there may be, Al Qaeda itself has called Iraq the central front in it's war with America. And in Iraq, Al Qaeda is getting it's ass handed to it.
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Yet more misleading bullshit from it's usual source. Here's another view:
How big is al-Qaeda?
"It’s impossible to say precisely, because al-Qaeda is decentralized. Estimates range from several hundred to several thousand members.
Is al-Qaeda connected to other terrorist organizations?
Yes. Among them:
* Egyptian Islamic Jihad
* The Libyan Islamic Fighting Group
* Islamic Army of Aden (Yemen)
* Jama'at al-Tawhid wal Jihad (Iraq)
* Lashkar-e-Taiba and Jaish-e-Muhammad (Kashmir)
* Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan
* Salafist Group for Call and Combat and the Armed Islamic Group (Algeria)
* Abu Sayyaf Group (Malaysia, Philippines)
* Jemaah Islamiya (Southeast Asia) "
I think it's a fair bet that Al Qaeda and their affiliates easily number in the many thousands. Their supporters and sympathizers number in the millions. Regardless of how many "members" there may be, Al Qaeda itself has called Iraq the central front in it's war with America. And in Iraq, Al Qaeda is getting it's ass handed to it.
Ideology can not be fought by conventional military means. The middle east needs educational institutions and economic reform to make people smart and prosperous. This is the only way to battle ideology, to bring new ideas that work into their culture. A bunch of M16 toting GIs is not the right answer.
And don't forget:
The Fighting Group of Islamic Libyan's
The Islamic Group of Libyan's Fighting
Group of Libyan's "The Fighting Islamic"
however they have little communication with each other, and often botch each others similar missions.
The Fighting Group of Islamic Libyan's
The Islamic Group of Libyan's Fighting
Group of Libyan's "The Fighting Islamic"
however they have little communication with each other, and often botch each others similar missions.
How you compare may not be as important as to whom you are compared
Ha ha!
reminds me of [iLife of Bryan[/i]!
Someone asked me whether I feared Islamic terrorist and I said no. Not in this country. We are no where near that point. We have more to fear from home grown vigilantes and people who forget to take their medications. Tim McVey and abortion clinic bombers and the like are far more dangerous to us than Islamic Terrorists.
I fear the fear of Islamic Terrorists being used a political tool to move our current form of government towards totalitarianism which is what the Bush Administration has accomplished. The US people collectively have lost their lead head. We have responded to religious fundamentalism with our own brand of religious fundamentalism which is really just another form of fear.
reminds me of [iLife of Bryan[/i]!
Someone asked me whether I feared Islamic terrorist and I said no. Not in this country. We are no where near that point. We have more to fear from home grown vigilantes and people who forget to take their medications. Tim McVey and abortion clinic bombers and the like are far more dangerous to us than Islamic Terrorists.
I fear the fear of Islamic Terrorists being used a political tool to move our current form of government towards totalitarianism which is what the Bush Administration has accomplished. The US people collectively have lost their lead head. We have responded to religious fundamentalism with our own brand of religious fundamentalism which is really just another form of fear.