Atheism

Post by **ynot** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:17 pm

12 billion miracles and repeatable. there's your scientific proof.

Post by **caribe** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:19 pm

Ynot: kids are stillborn quite often. It tends to happen more in countries with less advanced neonatal care. Before the turn of the last century it happened quite often here in god's country. If they did not die in year one there was always polio. None of this smacks as miraculous to me.

I am happy that you have healthy kids, I really am; though, I don't think a god or some gods are responsible for that. I really feel for the other parents who for some reason were not as blessed as you were.

Before you claim the miracle, wonder how your perspective changes with another roll of the dice.

Post by **pigsteak** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:26 pm

I was wondering when the high preistess of godlessness was going to step up...good to hear you caribe.

btw, I 100% agree with your last post..probably the first time ever, except when you PM me and tell me how my perfectly bolted routes make you cry "oh my god"...I do that to grown men, you know....wait, wait, I swear I just have a wide stance.

Post by JB » Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:49 pm

Solomon wrote:However, I do believe that the teaching of Jesus held more good than bad. Unfortunately they have been heavily distorted and misinterpreted over the years by his many followers

and many of his nay-sayers as well... as in the posts from shamis and saxman just before yours. again, religious folks don't corner the market on being bible beaters... folks who pick the bible apart to find it's flaws (of which there are many) are just as zealous and bible beating as those who use it to find reasons to look down their noses at unbelievers. I'd even call it a religion of unreligion. from what i can tell, Jesus wanted to tear down religion, and was quite subversive about it. but if you read the bible as facts and formulas, you'll not find that. If you read it as story, you might. but maybe not.

what my atheist friends "know" about christianity has very little to do with what i actually believe. and yet nobody asks... and even if they did, and even if i told them, my belief would be picked apart again.

so please practice what we preach... don't be so quick to judge.

Post by **Shamis** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 12:09 am

JB, please feel free to point out where I'm wrong. If I'm mis-representing your belief system, then you should defend it.

Sounds like you take an allegorical interpretation of the bible. Good, that means you're not a retard. It still doesn't mean its true.

Post by **dipsi** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:40 am

Shamis wrote:JB, please feel free to point out where I'm wrong. If I'm mis-representing your belief system, then you should defend it.

Sounds like you take an allegorical interpretation of the bible. Good, that means you're not a retard. It still doesn't mean its true.

It's true to me, Shamis.

Post by **anticlmber** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:52 am

when did any of this really matter?? who the fuck cares what you are the next person thinks about god or the flying spaghetti monster. live YOUR life in a nice, harmless way and we should all get along. the fighting and bantering of religion is for assholes.

the dali lama still sucks balls

Post by **pigsteak** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:17 am

see, anti just showed us all how to play in the sandbox in a "nice and harmless" way. use "fuck", "assholes", and "sucks" in your treatise on the perfectly user friendly life, and you've got the key to paradise.

and shamis, I am sure JB's faith is as multi faceted as your disbelief is. I am sure you don't want to be put in the same box with all atheists, and maybe you could allow the same latitude to Christians. the blanket condemnation of people of faith is as hilarious as religious people thinking alcohol is evil. believe it or not, your intolerance and narrow mindedness are cut from the same cloth as those you supposedly despise. both you and these "nut jobbers" have a rigid belief system that makes you feel superior and smug (saxman and caribe have signed on as well.)

It's like bolting/chopping in the early 90's in Colorado. To an outsider, it looked like all of Boulder was in an uproar, when in reality the issue was between a very small sliver of the climbing population.

Post by **Crankmas** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:20 am

I recall something to the effect that Einstein's stated goal was to not understand how God thought but how he dreamed, but then again I guess ol' Al was classified as one of those simple minded born again christians that couldn't possibly have any "relevance" ha in a modern world. ouch that hurt crankmas shut up your killing our smug asses here ouch ps friends don't let friends wear Madrock

Post by **Saxman** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:30 pm

JB wrote:and many of his nay-sayers as well... as in the posts from shamis and saxman just before yours. again, religious folks don't corner the market on being bible beaters... folks who pick the bible apart to find it's flaws (of which there are many) are just as zealous and bible beating as those who use it to find reasons to look down their noses at unbelievers. I'd even call it a religion of unreligion. from what i can tell, Jesus wanted to tear down religion, and was quite subversive about it. but if you read the bible as facts and formulas, you'll not find that. If you read it as story, you might. but maybe not.

what my atheist friends "know" about christianity has very little to do with what i actually believe. and yet nobody asks... and even if they did, and even if i told them, my belief would be picked apart again.

so please practice what we preach... don't be so quick to judge.

So we should only start raising a stink when children are no longer allowed to learn science in school? Schoolboards all accross the country are crippling our science curriculum. It is not just an isolated group of people.