American Dream

Post by **Toy** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:19 pm

craftsman ship is the last two bolts on supafly sticking out due to rock, (they were put in that way) and the anchor on the ??? right sticking out and in cracked rock as well. quality craftsmanship i'm sure.

That bolt did not protrude when the route was initially bolted. Those two bolts get yarded on constantly, being at the pump crux. The route is 7 years old and has seen hundreds of ascents on the original bolts (as best I remember). If the bolts were replaced, CM didn't do it. A testament to his craftsmanship is that you're still climbing on the original equipment.

Post by **anticlmber** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 2:51 pm

the two bolts i speak of, (exact location fuzzy) stick out due to the rock on the bottom of the hanger. you can tell that no rock was hammered away and that they have sat that way from day one. from below they look seated just fine and once your above you can see a good 1/8 - 1/4" sticking out.

i will gladly look again to see if these are rebolts, (although i don't think they are) and if so than yes poor craftsmanship. if not, than yes, poor craftsmanship.

Post by **Spragwa** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:25 pm

I don't believe for a second that Chris Martin did that. Regardless of how it appears now. 7 years later you wouldn't see hammer marks but erosion would show.

Post by **the lurkist** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:54 pm

Anticlimber- you truly live up to your name. BLASPHEMER! Endtimes are upon us and the Anticlimber is the great SATAN! GET THEE BEHIND ME, YOU BLACKENED HATER FROM THE DEPTHS OF HELL!!!!

Post by **anticlmber** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:39 pm

ok fine, no hameer, erosion, chipmunk gnaw marks, nothing. the rock is there regardless. if it was hammered on, then there must have been a shit-ton before.

i'm not attacking Mr. Martin personally, just the statement that was made.

Post by **the lurkist** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 9:21 am

Piggie,
Not only does Mike Doyle not have permission to move bolts on Fifty Words, but I never gave anyone permission to get on it. I was still projecting it. Didn't those guys see the red tag? I am going to kick some French guys ass.

Post by **RRO** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 9:27 am

canada lurk........

Post by **One-Fall** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:02 pm

My 2 cents: Chris is without a doubt one of the premier bolters in the Red. I wouldn't change a thing, especially without talking to him first.

Post by **goodguy** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:14 pm

Premier bolter.

Wow.

Post by **Spragwa** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 7:55 pm

One-Fall wrote:My 2 cents: Chris is without a doubt one of the premier bolters in the Red. I wouldn't change a thing, especially without talking to him first.

Agreed.