Rock Star watch

[charlie]

Just because I don't think anyone has said it yet.........

.....what a bunch of Fan Boys.

[the lurkist]

..only sneaking around.

Posting this shit on the intardweb is pretty fucking discreet you morons.

This is Rock Star Thread- not Access issues with a crusty old mean SOB in OK thread. Maybe there should be a new thread-
anyway-
We are all talking in a what? A bbs. Yes, a medium for discussion.
So, we shouldn't talk about the big floating turd in the punch bowl?
We are enjoying unprecedented (and very much deserved-That is to say the Rock deserves it) attention. Yet one of our best cliffs is still closed b/c we choose to not challenge the usurpation of our right to passage to access our property? We allow ourselves to be rogered?
Granted, court battles cost money. I submit that the opponent is as adverse to conflict as we are.
There needs to be addressing of this issue. We have the right to use our property.

[Andrew]

Has any of the pros been on the line at the gallery or the lines at the gold coast. That line at the Gallery sure is good looking.

[captain static]

I want to make something perfectly clear here regarding the relationship between the RRGCC and Charmane Oil. The RRGCC and Charmane Oil have negotiated and entered into a formal mediation agreement. According to that agreement any discussions or negotiations are to be held confidential. Honoring the confidentiality of the agreement, what I can say is that the two parties are talking directly, a huge step forward from the confrontation of the past.

I, for one, do not want to see our hard earned money and fundraising momentum from RocTrip/Rocktoberfest go to attorney fees and I believe a return to confrontation would be a huge mistake. Please continue to climb responsibly and realize the RRGCC does see the elephant in the room.

Thank you,

Bill Strachan, Executive Director
Red River Gorge Climbers' Coalition

[captain static]

Has any of the pros been on the line at the gallery or the lines at the gold coast. That line at the Gallery sure is good looking.

Back to the thread at hand, we saw Graham and someone else up at Gold Coast on Monday scoping it out. We heard one of them say, "This wall is dope!"

[sendit]

I agree with Lurkist. What does "If we own it, they can't close it" really mean when we can't climb at a place like Oil Crack.
Like everyone else, I respect all the hard work the RRGCC has done, but it still erks me everytime I go to the Southern region knowing that that area is closed to climbers. I guess I'm also still bitter at Charmane for towing my buddies truck a few years back leaving us stranded there in the dark. The only upside to the event was that was my first introduction to Joe Haynes (Kentucky/crazy Joe). We called Miguels and he came and got us, flying like a madman saying he was running from a state trooper. I had to ride in the back of his old pickup surrounded by multiple automatice weapons. He drove out the other end of the southern region (through the creeks) and the gun rack broke dropping an SKS on top of me. I was terrified for my life (knowing for certain the damn thing was loaded) praying it didn't go off.
When we finally got to Miguels and he opened the back latch to let me out, he started cursing me for 'breaking' his gun rack. I'm glad he was there this weekend, I think he gave all the rockstars some good conversation.

[Saxman]

.....what a bunch of Fan Boys.

You're just jealous you couldn't throw your Misty down near them.

[the lurkist]

and realize the RRGCC does see the elephant in the room.

Thank you,

Bill Strachan, Executive Director
Red River Gorge Climbers' Coalition

and I was confident you are aware, and are addressing. I have full confidence in the RRGCC BOD and ED. Good job on the Roctoberfest/ Roctrip.

[SCIN]

I don't think the Red has ever seen this many hard ascents in its life in a 1 week span. ONE week and there are probably a ton more who don't keep a list on 8a.nu.

From www.8a.nu:

Name Grade Name Crag Comment Date
Jason Forrester 7c+ Hoofmaker Red river gorge 2007-10-18
Leslie Timms (f) 7c+ The Force Red river gorge / The Dark Side Probably one of the best its grade. 2007-10-15
Mike Doyle 7c+ Charlie Red river gorge / Chocolate Factory Actual real climbing. 20m of twisty, turny, lay-backing, hand-jamming, dyno goodness. 2007-10-14
Sean McColl 7c+ Convicted Red river gorge Fun, pretty long 2007-10-13
Future Roden 7c+ Tika Monster Red river gorge something not a repeat finally 2007-10-14
Lee Robinson 7c+ Unnamed route Red river gorge / Sore Heel Area should be named poaching liquid. Awesome route! 2007-10-14
Andre DiFelice 8a Dracula Red river gorge Kenny Barker sucks!!! 2007-10-15
Daniel Woods 8a Bohica Red river gorge 2nd worst climbing day ever... wow things have to go uphill from here 2007-10-13
Daniel Woods 8a Dirty Smelly Hippie Red river gorge adventure climbing to good headwall 2007-10-14
Sean McColl 8a Bohica Red river gorge One might say i did Flohica. 2007-10-13
Daniel Martian 8a Elephant man Red river gorge 2007-10-13
Duke Goulden 8a Shiva Red river gorge 2007-10-16
Duke Goulden 8a Paradise lost Red river gorge / Purgatory 2007-10-16
Gabor Szekely 8a The Castle has Fallen Red river gorge crazy route, one hard move. 2007-10-15
Gabor Szekely 8a Paradise Lost Red river gorge misery.. 2007-10-15
Marshal German 8a Dirty Smelly Hippie Red river gorge 2007-10-17
Marshal German 8a BOHICA Red river gorge 2007-10-20
Nathan Hadley 8a Shiva Red river gorge / Muir Valley Awesome day of climbing! 2007-10-14
Brad Weaver 8a+ White Man's Overbite Red river gorge third go...first go of day. super good 2007-10-13
Daniel Woods 8a+ Kaleidoscope Red river gorge amazing route! the perfect line 2007-10-14
Sean McColl 8a+ The Madness Red river gorge Longgggggg 2007-10-13
Future Roden 8a+ Kalaidescope Red river gorge such an amazing route, shoulda onsighted 2007-10-14
Future Roden 8a+ MILF Money Red river gorge couple goes, a good end to a good trip 2007-10-14
Mike Doyle 8a+ Kaleidoscope Red river gorge / Drive-By Missed the onsight last year, 1st try this year. 2007-10-16
Gabor Szekely 8a+ Kalaidescope Red river gorge amazing route! 2007-10-19
Dani Andrada 8b Ultra perm Red river gorge / Bob marley bonita quizas es mejor 8a+ no se un poco flas para mi a vista mis metodos 2007-10-13
Dani Andrada 8b The last of boican Red river gorge / Motherlof quizas 8a+ mejor. 2007-10-14
Gabor Szekely 8b Ultra Perm Red river gorge not bad at all, should have gone for flash 2007-10-19
Sean McColl 8c+ Lucifer Red river gorge 2nd ascent! 2 days, 4 tries. Perfectly my style, lucky temps! 2007-10-20

[Andrew]

Damn lucifer got a second ascent in four f'n tries. Sean McColl is a freak.