someone help me here..I seem to have missed the fun...
kenny has a route that he sent without using a ledge. right? but others are now using the ledge to rest, and therefore making the route easier. what is the problem..if the ledge is now being used, it is silly to say it is "off"....just give it the easiest grade that it goes at. only fools intentionally make a route harder than it is...line of least resistance, or something like that.
someone give pigsteak a clue, I seem to have run out. Oh dah pigsteak, elimate routes are all the rage, its the future, were talking 5.16 here. "Line of least resistance" is so 2001. dah.
Dynamite isn't the only answer - a 'high-tech' solution might be to put a huge, sloping glob of slippery epoxy on the ledge, or, a 'low tech' solution would be to mount tall, sharp spikes on the ledge - just like the spikes used to keep pigeons off of things!
pigsteak wrote:
kenny has a route that he sent without using a ledge. right? but others are now using the ledge to rest, and therefore making the route easier. what is the problem..if the ledge is now being used, it is silly to say it is "off"....just give it the easiest grade that it goes at. only fools intentionally make a route harder than it is...line of least resistance, or something like that.
Line of least resistance given that you aren't adding bolts to a runout or otherwise changing the style of the FA. I don't know,there's too many funky rules and grey areas about climbing anymore. I figure as long as Mr Day isn't laughing at me I'm doing OK. We should just have a non climber arbitrate all the squabbles on here.
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