important question

Post by **Andrew** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:26 pm

The fourth that I was refering to is 18 feet off the ground, if that much.

Post by **Toy** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:40 pm

And to take it to a more absurd standard, do the route hanging the draws and then down climb the route cleaning the route. Now that is definitive

Don't forget naked/shoeless/chalkless/caffeineless and shakraless.

Post by **pigsteak** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:39 pm

if it is for yourself, mr guidebook author, why do we get less points for a TR send? someone in the universe must find TR'ing a "lesser" style...

so stick clipping 4 is only worthy of lesser points. please adjust the scale.

and ashtray, you must care, cause you just gave us the "accepted" routes to clip or not clip..only a poser would even know those standards.

Post by **ashtray** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:43 pm

Post by **Horatio Felacio** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:46 pm

ooohhhh! a fight, a fight, a piggie and a white. if the white don't win, we all jump in!

Post by **SCIN** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:38 pm

pigsteak wrote:if it is for yourself, mr guidebook author, why do we get less points for a TR send? someone in the universe must find TR'ing a "lesser" style...

I wouldn't do that to my bros. If you were on the guilty list maybe. I will pay to see you guys fight though.

Post by **pigsteak** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:57 pm

two geriatrics getting it on and pretending like the pre teens care about our sends...now that is funny.

I disagree.....climbing is not for one's self, no matter how "pure" that mantra sounds. it sounds noble to say we don't give a sh** about what people think, but everyone cares about what someone else thinks. affirmation on some level is what keeps the world ticking.

meadows, I've seen your stick clip..it easily clips the fourth bolt on any climb.

Post by **SCIN** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:09 pm

You need to read what I wrote again. You only saw that one string of text that Pigsteak looks for to create your automated response.

I said that if you can sleep with the thought of how you've done a route then it doesn't matter how you've done a route unless you need your sponsorship. If you're having trouble dealing with how you've sent a route then yes, you do need to take care of that and go send it the way that makes you feel better. The root cause of the ill feelings could be your worries of how your buds may view you.

For me, doing this 50 Bucks route the way I did it doesnt' cause me to lose sleep. It's just another 12c. I feel no differently about it than if it were a 11b. However, if it were a 13b or 13c then I really probably wouldn't be able to sleep well.

Post by **pigsteak** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:14 pm

but it says 13a in the online guide. so did you downgrade it in your mind so you wouldn't have to go to bed at night tossing and turning? andrew the giant calls it solid 13b...right andrew?

man, auto response is the easiest..pick and choose and get the tribe riled up....

btw, nice job on your TR send of fiddy.

Post by **Andrew** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:57 pm

I called that thing 12c too. Its easy.

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important question

Can it ever be considered acceptable to say you sent a route, but did it with the fourth bolt stick clipped.