Training with added weight...

[pigsteak]

shamis..your endurance sucks...I think you are lying about the vest.

[the lurkist]

I personally think training for the Red is all about training on finger buckets or reasonable slopers, so slogging on a treadwall is as good as it gets. I am no master, but have taken my lessons from my betters, including the champion of the treadwall, Bill Ramsey.
Everything I have posted is of course thrown into immediate disrepute by any young boulderer who does nothing but boulder V hard at the gym 5 days a week and then comes to the cliff and climbs 5.13 + .
I do think that a sensible approach to training works for old guys who suck and can't get to the cliff 4 days a week. Again, 42-43 year old Jeff Ashley who is hiking 5.13s in this heat and does nothing other than climb outside doesn't help my arguement.

[Rags]

jeff ashley is only 43 years old? I thought that dude was way older than that....

[ashtray]

i am 41. bitches. i may look older but that is due to a rare genetic disease that ages me faster. much like those little kids that look 80 at age nine. and lurkist didn't you cripple yourself training with weights on your torture wall?

[Meadows]

Tray - It's not a disease, it's the cigarettes.

[pigsteak]

so cigarettes make you look older but crank harder...sounds good to me...what brand, marlboro man?

[mcrib]

From what I hear the starvation diet is the best thing going for training right now. eat less send more.

[ashtray]

That growling sound emanating from the inside of your gut == power.

best training though is frequent masturbation. To stay balanced though you must be ambijacktrous.

[tomdarch]

so cigarettes make you look older but crank harder...sounds good to me...what brand, marlboro man?

From an old college comic strip:

Vegetables are good for you. Leaves are vegetables. Tobacco is a leaf. Tobacco is good for you! (In the margin: "A clean lung is the devil's whiffle bat")

[steep4me]

I achieve this goal by gaining 10 pounds every summer and winter while I train in the gym. That way, when I get outside in the Spring and Fall at my skinny weight, everything seems easier! Saves me the cost of a weight belt and people razzzing me about how I train. 8)