Suggestions on a Car

Post by **pawilkes** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 1:33 pm

one other brand to think about is Hyundai. they have one of the best quality records in the industry (better than Toyota and Honda) and are pretty cheap but get flack because...well, they're Hyundai. i know a guy who has put lots of miles on one and beat the crap out of it and its still going strong. you'd probably be able to pick a used one up cheap

Post by **ScrmnPeeler** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 1:50 pm

Jeep's new patriot 4X4 is available in a manual transmission which pushes it to close to 30mpg. It's decent size, I was in one the other day. 4x4s start at around 17k.

Built on the Dodge Nitro platform.

I may buy it, but I think I should wait for the next model year since it is new.

Post by **krampus** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 1:52 pm

I hear ya on waiting till cars are not new, I would seriously consider the VW Diesel if I could find it used

Post by **lordjim_2001** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 1:54 pm

You and about everybody else. A newer VW diesel is hard to get a hold of. I still drool over the 4 door TDI Golf and the TDI Jetta wagons.

Post by **charlie** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 1:59 pm

I drove a tdi golf for a couple years. it really did kick ass. I had a long commute that was mostly highway driving and averaged 45 to 48 mpg with most every tank. The tdi engine was strong too, plenty of power for that little car.

Post by **Crankmas** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 2:38 pm

it may be weird for a while while those ahead of the game travel along in a 1200 lb car while the suburbans and denalis and oh course Alan in his hummer stream by

Post by **Wes** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 2:52 pm

Yep, TDI wagon looks like a nice ride. Maybe it is the suburban yuppie mom coming out in me, but I really dig the new volvo XTC 4 x 4 wagons.

The the 4 x 4 civic is a bad ass ride for sure. This guy I met in Vedauwoo a couple years ago has one, and he can rally that thing to just about anywhere.

Post by **the lurkist** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 3:24 pm

there are hybrid awd's coming out in 2008. 2 minivans for sure. Toyota Siena and the Toyota Estima. AVg 40mpg, I think.

Post by **the lurkist** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 3:25 pm

RAV 4 is hybrid. as well and highlander.
Ford escape is hybrid too.

Post by **pawilkes** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 3:32 pm

the new TDI's are actually bigger than the old ones. I can't remember the difference in horse power or more importantly torque but the old ones were a 1.8 L and the new ones are 2.0 L. If you're looking for the absolute best mpg out of a TDI the older, smaller ones probably do a bit better.