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hey n00bs do not climb without experiened climbers. I mean Sh!t you can't get a driver's license without first having a permit and taking a test!
Lurkist if you think anything like my other half- he always wants to run when we see newbies doing stupid stuff. His quotes is always ,"This is my day off, I'm not taking care of some stupid newbie"
Don't get me wrong- we all started somewhere but I truly believe in the mentoring thing. That's how we were baptized and I wouldn't have wanted it anyother way.
Dude- find an experienced climber who is passionate about sharing his love and don't worry about how many draws you have right now.
Lurkist if you think anything like my other half- he always wants to run when we see newbies doing stupid stuff. His quotes is always ,"This is my day off, I'm not taking care of some stupid newbie"
Don't get me wrong- we all started somewhere but I truly believe in the mentoring thing. That's how we were baptized and I wouldn't have wanted it anyother way.
Dude- find an experienced climber who is passionate about sharing his love and don't worry about how many draws you have right now.
nOObs,
If you take nothing else from this, don't start climbing at your gym grade, climb some 5.6 and 5.7 to get a feel for hanging your own gear, take a bail biner (learn what that is) Learn to clean the anchors, this might even be possible at you gym, though doughtful, and use locking biners for this task so when you slip, shit doesn't go bad, and most of all, be respectful to the bolt guys and,
, also, there is a lot of good advice in this thread if you look through the bull shit. There is gear and practices that the gym simply leaves out because it is not needed. Like rapping, not being lowered from the anchors, Cleaning the anchors, (unless you would like to donate two draws on every route you climb), having PAS or daisy chains to clean with, learning to clip draws so the fall direction doesn't cross the gate, etc.... The best advice in this thread is to go with someone who knows. On the first page there was even an offer for a partner with a PM. (Now you will have to discuss the honesty of that claim) Even if it costs you some cash, (maybe some beer and pizza at least) it is worth it to not be 20 feet above a backclipped bolt and screaming for your mommy. Don't just assume that what you read on the internet is right.DO NOT TOP ROPE THROUGH THE ANCHORS.
If you take nothing else from this, don't start climbing at your gym grade, climb some 5.6 and 5.7 to get a feel for hanging your own gear, take a bail biner (learn what that is) Learn to clean the anchors, this might even be possible at you gym, though doughtful, and use locking biners for this task so when you slip, shit doesn't go bad, and most of all, be respectful to the bolt guys and,
DO NOT TOP ROPE THROUGH THE ANCHORS
learn to jam, learn to bleed, learn when to give up the lead
learning to clean anchors at the gym is the BEST place. my gym has a demo area for when they teach classes that has some chains and a bit of rope. i asked one of the more experienced people at the gym to show me. after practicing a bit i asked a different person to watch me to make sure i was doing it right. then i would practice "cleaning" and "rappelling" until i was 100% comfortable. i made mistakes just starting out - but "falling" 6 inches sure beats 60 feet!
i'm sure <b>ED's</b> offer was 100% honest. if the people you're going with haven't climbed a lot outside, take him up on his offer.
i'm sure <b>ED's</b> offer was 100% honest. if the people you're going with haven't climbed a lot outside, take him up on his offer.
"Unthinkably good things can happen, even late in the game." ~ Under the Tuscan Sun
You should definitly take ED up then, experience is the best "gear" to have with you, and if you do not do that, then try climbing at Muir Valley, Bruisebrothers Wall has two anchors at the furthest routes (I believe under or near Send Me On My Way 5.9-) on the deck, that you can practice cleaning on, and if you miss those, there are some bolts on a large boulder on the hike in, just don't let the mangled bolts on the rock scare you.
learn to jam, learn to bleed, learn when to give up the lead
Just for the help in finding some of the better walls and regions to climb alone would be a real good reason to take him up on his offer. It would save you a lot of time and frustration to take his generosity.
You will have a blast. Most climbers that are climbing nearby will be very willling and helpful. Be friendly. And open to the help.
You will have a blast. Most climbers that are climbing nearby will be very willling and helpful. Be friendly. And open to the help.
....with every step he takes ... every move he makes....
odds are he won't live to see tomorrow.
odds are he won't live to see tomorrow.