Dogs at Muir

Post by **RRO** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:20 am

i must admit i didnt read past the first page but this has been a long time coming. almost 400 climbs, nice trails, safe parking lot all for free. thanks rick and liz, you have our support with whatever you do.

Post by **mcrib** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:53 am

Trying getting that no socks with the climbing shoes rule past the ashtray, he'll fuck you up.

Post by **anticlmber** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 4:51 am

Spragwa wrote:Good Lord anticlimber, you are the absolute worst at the "not my dog, he'd never have done anything." Seriously bad form.

Dogs aren't the worst threat to closure, humans are.

Still, everyone obey the freaking rules and tell people whne you see them breaking them.

i'm not pulling that card. if he was around he'd be leashed to me if need be. or we wouldn't go to crowded places.

all i'm saying to dog owners is this. if your dog is not leashed and they are not in your sight for even a second, you do not know what they are doing. good dogs are bad from time to time. hell mine ate my sandwich when i left him in the car for one minute alone. humans are an access issue. when they bring dogs, (off the leash) they have multiplied it tenfold. i like dogs, just not all the time.

Post by **Torrent Falls** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 7:06 am

As in the closure of Torrent, this is a respect issue. The land owner may or may not be a climber, but if they open the property to climbers or anyone else....... respect the rules.

Unfortunately it is not a dog problem. The dog did not drive to the crag and create the problems. It is the nature of a dog to be a dog.

Unfortunately, it is also the nature of disrespectful humans to disobey the rules and disrespect good people like Rick and Liz. I actually hoped that the closing of Torrent would send a message about respect. It saddens my heart that it did not. You might as well flip the land owners off every time you walk by them and say fuck you and I am going to do whatever I want to on your beautiful land.

Mark

Post by **Lateralus** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 2:32 pm

Mark I would but your pulled pork just tastes too damn good you bastard!

Post by **edouble** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:53 pm

Its too bad people cannot follow simple rules and respect the land owners that have been so nice to give us access to climb in their backyards.

Post by **mcrib** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:18 pm

wow what a fresh perspective.

Post by **Zspider** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:12 pm

Torrent wrote:

Unfortunately, it is also the nature of disrespectful humans to disobey the rules and disrespect good people like Rick and Liz.

**************
Those must be the bad people that masquerade as climbers. True climbers are trustworthy, loyal, friendly, courteous...

ZSpiddy

Post by **anticlmber** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:34 am

Total Fucking Muggle wrote:**************
Those must be the bad people that masquerade as climbers. True climbers are trustworthy, loyal, friendly, courteous...

Total Fucking Muggle

you're right. not the first time but one of the few.

Post by **Zspider** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:23 am

And you live in some conjured up fantasy world mired in a particularly gooey sentimental muck.

ZSpiddy