Don't make me go and get Upgrayedd (the dd is for the double dose of pimp'n)Adam and Eve hunted dinosaurs!
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What the bible says about itself is irrelevant. I do think the Bible is an important sacred text BUT it is certainlly not the infallible word of God. Simply put, the Bible is a sacred text(like many other sacred texts), written by ancient people telling their stories of there expeiences of their god.ElectricDisciple wrote:Rhunt:
what does the Bible say about itself?
So no Piggie no stretch at all. It's not the Word, literal or other, of God.
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ElectricDisciple
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Rhunt:
It is definitely not irrelevant what the Bible says about itself. It is absolutely necessary to this debate. If I wanted to find out about you, your personality, your likes, dislikes, etc.. Who would I ask these things of? Of course I wouldn't ask someone who didn't know you, or someone who had a vague knowledge of who you were. I would go right up to you and ask you questions about yourself. In the same way you must go to Scripture asking Scripture about itself to get the best insight you can. If the Bible asserts itself as inspired by God (I Tim 3:16) and that it was written by men carried by the Holy Spirit (II Pet. 2:20), then that's the construct provided by the Bible to us.
The whole point of Answers in Genesis is this fact, that we can trust the Bible as God's Word and it's authority in all things. When you look at nature there isn't a chaotic randomness that evolution tends to foster. There is a supreme order to the creation and a logical way in which things have occured. This backs up nicely with the order and chronology of the Genesis account.
How anyone can believe in a randomness and chaotic evolutionary process with the evidence of order, logic, and dare I say reason and NOT see the evidence of God's hand in the works of it all is beyond me. You need MORE faith to believe in evolution than you would if you knew that God created it all.
Again, the challenge still stands to come with me and see the museum with an open mind and consider their claims. I think most of you are scared to do any serious inquiry on the subject in the first place myself.
It is definitely not irrelevant what the Bible says about itself. It is absolutely necessary to this debate. If I wanted to find out about you, your personality, your likes, dislikes, etc.. Who would I ask these things of? Of course I wouldn't ask someone who didn't know you, or someone who had a vague knowledge of who you were. I would go right up to you and ask you questions about yourself. In the same way you must go to Scripture asking Scripture about itself to get the best insight you can. If the Bible asserts itself as inspired by God (I Tim 3:16) and that it was written by men carried by the Holy Spirit (II Pet. 2:20), then that's the construct provided by the Bible to us.
The whole point of Answers in Genesis is this fact, that we can trust the Bible as God's Word and it's authority in all things. When you look at nature there isn't a chaotic randomness that evolution tends to foster. There is a supreme order to the creation and a logical way in which things have occured. This backs up nicely with the order and chronology of the Genesis account.
How anyone can believe in a randomness and chaotic evolutionary process with the evidence of order, logic, and dare I say reason and NOT see the evidence of God's hand in the works of it all is beyond me. You need MORE faith to believe in evolution than you would if you knew that God created it all.
Again, the challenge still stands to come with me and see the museum with an open mind and consider their claims. I think most of you are scared to do any serious inquiry on the subject in the first place myself.
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Pru
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/sacredpigsteak wrote:so none of the sacred texts are the word of god? what makes any of them "sacred"? say, for example, any more sacred than a calvin and hobbes comic book?
"Climbing is the spice, not the meal." ~ Lurkist