Personally, I don't think that most of the rock at the Red seeps, unless there is a weakness in it.
My theory is that it would take alot of pressure for water to move through sandstone! The steep rock, and all the rock for that matter, gets wet when it is high humidity and the rock is cooler than the air; it simply condenses on the rock, just like it does on your windshield. But, if someone has a better theory, prove me wrong!
RAIN
It moves some through capillarity but mainly just by gravity. i.e., it's pulled, not pushed. It will move down the face first, then will soak in. You are right about the condensation too though, but that's where you get a lot of the standing water. If it's left on the rock long enough, it too will seep into the rock.
Mj
Mj
...quitting drinking is kinda like washing your hands after you take a crap...why start now?
Yep, its wet around here...aaahhhh spring in KY.
BC-KY--MissingCaver 2ndLd-Writethru 06-17 0547
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Michigan man drowns in cave during heavy rains
Eds: AMs.
By ROGER ALFORD
Associated Press Writer
OLIVE HILL, Ky. (AP) -- A Michigan man drowned in a northeastern
Kentucky cave when heavy rains caused an underground stream to
flood.
The victim was identified as Allen Booth, 20, of Ypsilanti,
Mich. He was found about 150 feet inside a small cave at Horn
Hollow.
Two juveniles in the same cave were able to escape, said Roger
Haney, with Carter County Search and Rescue.
"Apparently the victim drowned while the others were coming
out," Haney said. "Once they realized they were in danger, they
turned to leave and were met by a wall of water."
The three males went into the cave about 4 p.m. Monday. The cave
is on the border of state and private land. Haney said it was still
unclear weather the cave was on state park property.
Because of bad weather, Carter Caves State Park officials had
warned tourists to stay clear of all 25 caves on the grounds and
had stopped giving permits to tour the caves at 1 p.m. EDT.
"The two survivors had to exit the cave by swimming
underwater," Haney said of the two juveniles from Ohio.
Booth's body was found about 9 a.m. Tuesday by crews searching
for him. Haney said the high waters prevented a search Monday
night.
Park Superintendent Lisa Davis said the males had gone into an
unguided cave in a remote area about two miles from the park's
visitors center.
She would not release the identities of the two other males.
This was the second drowning in Kentucky caused by flash
flooding. The body of a 6-year-old, identified as Beverly Yarber,
was found Monday afternoon three miles downstream from the point
where she went into Drowning Creek in Estill County. Yarber had
been missing since Saturday when the flooded creek pulled her from
the hand of her grandfather.
The girl was in a car with her mother and grandfather as they
crossed a narrow bridge across Drowning Creek, about eight miles
from the Kentucky River. Swift water from the swollen stream pushed
the car over the edge of the bridge. It was found some 200 yards
downstream Sunday.
In Pike County, heavy rains forced evacuations in the areas
around Virgie and Dorton.
"We have a lot of flash flooding and mudslides," Doug Tackett,
head of Pike County Disaster and Emergency Services, said Tuesday.
"The water is still up and we can't get in there yet to check the
damages," he said.
Tackett said 15 to 20 major mudslides were reported across the
southwestern part of Pike County. No injuries had been reported,
but several homes had been knocked from their foundations, Tackett
said.
Two inches of rain fell by midday on Tuesday on ground that was
already saturated, Tackett said. That, he said, is the reason the
flash flooding was so severe.
Thunderstorms soaked eastern the eastern Kentucky counties of
Rowan, Elliott, Morgan, Perry, Leslie, Letcher, Pike, Knott and
Floyd. Flood warnings were issued for each of those counties.
A flood watch was issued until midnight Tuesday for Bracken,
Lewis, Mason, Pendleton, Robertson, Boone, Campbell, Carroll,
Gallatin, Grant, Kenton and Owen counties.
(Copyright 2003 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
APTV-06-17-03 1446EDT
BC-KY--MissingCaver 2ndLd-Writethru 06-17 0547
BC-KY--Missing Caver, 2nd Ld-Writethru,570
Michigan man drowns in cave during heavy rains
Eds: AMs.
By ROGER ALFORD
Associated Press Writer
OLIVE HILL, Ky. (AP) -- A Michigan man drowned in a northeastern
Kentucky cave when heavy rains caused an underground stream to
flood.
The victim was identified as Allen Booth, 20, of Ypsilanti,
Mich. He was found about 150 feet inside a small cave at Horn
Hollow.
Two juveniles in the same cave were able to escape, said Roger
Haney, with Carter County Search and Rescue.
"Apparently the victim drowned while the others were coming
out," Haney said. "Once they realized they were in danger, they
turned to leave and were met by a wall of water."
The three males went into the cave about 4 p.m. Monday. The cave
is on the border of state and private land. Haney said it was still
unclear weather the cave was on state park property.
Because of bad weather, Carter Caves State Park officials had
warned tourists to stay clear of all 25 caves on the grounds and
had stopped giving permits to tour the caves at 1 p.m. EDT.
"The two survivors had to exit the cave by swimming
underwater," Haney said of the two juveniles from Ohio.
Booth's body was found about 9 a.m. Tuesday by crews searching
for him. Haney said the high waters prevented a search Monday
night.
Park Superintendent Lisa Davis said the males had gone into an
unguided cave in a remote area about two miles from the park's
visitors center.
She would not release the identities of the two other males.
This was the second drowning in Kentucky caused by flash
flooding. The body of a 6-year-old, identified as Beverly Yarber,
was found Monday afternoon three miles downstream from the point
where she went into Drowning Creek in Estill County. Yarber had
been missing since Saturday when the flooded creek pulled her from
the hand of her grandfather.
The girl was in a car with her mother and grandfather as they
crossed a narrow bridge across Drowning Creek, about eight miles
from the Kentucky River. Swift water from the swollen stream pushed
the car over the edge of the bridge. It was found some 200 yards
downstream Sunday.
In Pike County, heavy rains forced evacuations in the areas
around Virgie and Dorton.
"We have a lot of flash flooding and mudslides," Doug Tackett,
head of Pike County Disaster and Emergency Services, said Tuesday.
"The water is still up and we can't get in there yet to check the
damages," he said.
Tackett said 15 to 20 major mudslides were reported across the
southwestern part of Pike County. No injuries had been reported,
but several homes had been knocked from their foundations, Tackett
said.
Two inches of rain fell by midday on Tuesday on ground that was
already saturated, Tackett said. That, he said, is the reason the
flash flooding was so severe.
Thunderstorms soaked eastern the eastern Kentucky counties of
Rowan, Elliott, Morgan, Perry, Leslie, Letcher, Pike, Knott and
Floyd. Flood warnings were issued for each of those counties.
A flood watch was issued until midnight Tuesday for Bracken,
Lewis, Mason, Pendleton, Robertson, Boone, Campbell, Carroll,
Gallatin, Grant, Kenton and Owen counties.
(Copyright 2003 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
APTV-06-17-03 1446EDT
I see they are still lopping off mountains in Eastern Kentucky. Electricity isn't cheap.