Muir Valley Concerns

Post by **rhunt** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:48 pm

That was AWESOME!! "cull the n00bs" I love it.

I have a suggestion. How about we start a ban on any new route development at a grade easier than 5.11c for the rest of 2007. If you don't bolt it then they won't come.

Post by **Meadows** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:11 pm

I think you all forget, you were once a "n00b."

Rhunt, what about n00bs that start at 5.12 like "itmeansgod"? I think we'll just see evolution at it's finest. To keep up with environmental demands, they'll just start out strong.

Post by **TradMike** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:29 pm

The Webers should require yard work or other projects on the property before anyone can get a pass to climb. They would end up having the most beatiful home and preserve in Kentucky and it would cut down on crowds and unruly people. I also think you should have to pay to play in PMRP until it's paid for. I personally seek out the long approaches to avoid crowds. The more difficult the approach the fewer the people and the ones that are there are nice to be around even their dogs.

Post by **rhunt** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:34 pm

Just cus I thought it was funny doesn't mean I support being hateful to N00bs. Yes I was once a major n00b and I have funny pictures to remind me of it. I am hoping to return to some of my n00b roots this year and go back to climbing 5.6's at Seneca. Now if I can only find a non-n00b partner to join me at Seneca.

Wes brought up the best point of all this. It's all about too many people and there is no solution to that problem.

Post by **pigsteak** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:01 pm

yes there is rhunt....accidentally drop your partner..problem solved.

Post by **charlie** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:02 pm

When I was a n00b we functioned in awe, fear and respect of those that came before us. Nobody held your hand.

I dare say it wasn't so gumby as it is these days and it really wouldn't be useful to start killing all the "wheybakindaday" climbers would it? Who would put up routes, clean cracks, build trails, and bring the beers to the crag?

Post by **Meadows** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:02 pm

rhunt wrote:It's all about too many people and there is no solution to that problem.

The comment was directed to anyone speaking of n00bs.

China found the solution to "too many people." Unfortunately, they'll be screwed on retirement.

Post by **krampus** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:12 pm

pigsteak will you climb with me this weekend? You can hang the draws

Post by **captain static** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:33 pm

Wheybakinthaday we called the nOObs tagging along "Rope Boy"

Post by **pigsteak** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:58 pm

krampus...wheybackindaday we used gold line....I might make you a noose if yer not careful....