How about all the land preserved in the gorge b/c of climbers? PMRP, muir, etc.
think it makes up for the other impacts??
"if your cold and need a blanket, somebody give em' a blanket; if you needs some socks, sombody give em' some socks; and if your holding...don't hold out."
there is also the fact that I hardly ever see plain hikers at the crags used for climbing, and climbers love to see bolts on rock. I know there are exceptions so don't go quoting them all, I am only talking about the majority of hikers and climbers at the red. and trad climber opinions don't count.
How you compare may not be as important as to whom you are compared
eeeeewwww I'm a trad climber, I am so cool, i don't believe in bolts, I am such a pure climber.........oh thank god someone left that piton on the wall
How you compare may not be as important as to whom you are compared
anticlimber the lover of the eartth riding in Pete's giant truck that probably gets 1.5 miles per gallon. But I do appreciate the clever charmaine oil worker disguise.
I know there are exceptions so don't go quoting them all, I am only talking about the majority of hikers and climbers at the red. and trad climber opinions don't count.
